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Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 4:19 pm
Broken Tamborine
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:54 pm Posts: 418
I know there are different versions of Jeremy on various singles, but I'm not entirely sure what the differences are. I assume some may be edited, at least, but then you've got this at 4:49, and this version with it at 5:21. And the album version is listed at 5:18.
I feel like I've also heard people talk about the "video" version, but i don't honestly know if that's (a) different or (b) ever been released anywhere other than as the audio to the video.
Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Mon December 02, 2013 9:49 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 5:47 pm Posts: 3044 Location: Louisville, KY
hlniv wrote:
I started a new project last night- 7 disc compilation, roughly 550 minutes (that's over 9 hours, folks)
1991 - 1994 Ten/Vs/Vitalogy - 3 disc (each 70+ mins) compilation - assembling and re-tracking as many full songs that will fit. For example, I've split Vs. into the 2nd and 3rd discs. Vitalogy tunes are all on the 3rd disc, the Ten-era releases, b-sides, re-releases, etc... mostly on disc 1. Lost Dogs tracks, album re-issue bonus tracks, xmas singles, etc... Most of these recordings fit well together. Trying to keep all Dave A performances on discs 2 and 3
1995 - 1998 No Code/Yield - 2 discs, same theory on source material. Merkinball tunes, a couple of live tracks, maybe a couple Mirrorball tunes as well. All Jack Irons performances
2001 - 2004- Riot Act - 1 disc - re-tracked w/b-sides, plus man of the hour & cold confession. These seem to fit well.
In my opinion, Pearl Jam effectively ended their 12 year run as a studio group / creative force with the release of Riot Act. I am including MOTH and cold confession, which takes it through 2004, 14 years since forming. I think CC was the last creatively aspiring tune they recorded (that we've heard). The evolution of the reception of S/T and Backspacer in the years since their release support that theory. Maybe LB will change that, but I highly doubt it (and i actually do enjoy the new tunes).
My attempt here is to present this 14 year run in a new and comprehensive way.
This thread is a good source, and I will use it and try to provide any additional input as I go through this project.
I finally got around to finalizing all of this, tracking it, editing for volume/fades/lengths, tagging it, and uploading the results if anyone is interested in some links. I posted and edited the final tracklist earlier in this thread. Eight discs total, MP3's. PM me if interested.
Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 5:28 am
AnalLog
Joined: Mon February 18, 2013 4:40 pm Posts: 1721 Location: Cracktown, Great White North
hlniv wrote:
hlniv wrote:
I started a new project last night- 7 disc compilation, roughly 550 minutes (that's over 9 hours, folks)
1991 - 1994 Ten/Vs/Vitalogy - 3 disc (each 70+ mins) compilation - assembling and re-tracking as many full songs that will fit. For example, I've split Vs. into the 2nd and 3rd discs. Vitalogy tunes are all on the 3rd disc, the Ten-era releases, b-sides, re-releases, etc... mostly on disc 1. Lost Dogs tracks, album re-issue bonus tracks, xmas singles, etc... Most of these recordings fit well together. Trying to keep all Dave A performances on discs 2 and 3
1995 - 1998 No Code/Yield - 2 discs, same theory on source material. Merkinball tunes, a couple of live tracks, maybe a couple Mirrorball tunes as well. All Jack Irons performances
2001 - 2004- Riot Act - 1 disc - re-tracked w/b-sides, plus man of the hour & cold confession. These seem to fit well.
In my opinion, Pearl Jam effectively ended their 12 year run as a studio group / creative force with the release of Riot Act. I am including MOTH and cold confession, which takes it through 2004, 14 years since forming. I think CC was the last creatively aspiring tune they recorded (that we've heard). The evolution of the reception of S/T and Backspacer in the years since their release support that theory. Maybe LB will change that, but I highly doubt it (and i actually do enjoy the new tunes).
My attempt here is to present this 14 year run in a new and comprehensive way.
This thread is a good source, and I will use it and try to provide any additional input as I go through this project.
I finally got around to finalizing all of this, tracking it, editing for volume/fades/lengths, tagging it, and uploading the results if anyone is interested in some links. I posted and edited the final tracklist earlier in this thread. Eight discs total, MP3's. PM me if interested.
pm sent. im very impressed by this. and i've always wanted someone to edit out writer's block from parting ways
Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Fri December 20, 2013 7:40 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon February 18, 2013 4:40 pm Posts: 1721 Location: Cracktown, Great White North
DeLima wrote:
hlniv wrote:
hlniv wrote:
I started a new project last night- 7 disc compilation, roughly 550 minutes (that's over 9 hours, folks)
1991 - 1994 Ten/Vs/Vitalogy - 3 disc (each 70+ mins) compilation - assembling and re-tracking as many full songs that will fit. For example, I've split Vs. into the 2nd and 3rd discs. Vitalogy tunes are all on the 3rd disc, the Ten-era releases, b-sides, re-releases, etc... mostly on disc 1. Lost Dogs tracks, album re-issue bonus tracks, xmas singles, etc... Most of these recordings fit well together. Trying to keep all Dave A performances on discs 2 and 3
1995 - 1998 No Code/Yield - 2 discs, same theory on source material. Merkinball tunes, a couple of live tracks, maybe a couple Mirrorball tunes as well. All Jack Irons performances
2001 - 2004- Riot Act - 1 disc - re-tracked w/b-sides, plus man of the hour & cold confession. These seem to fit well.
In my opinion, Pearl Jam effectively ended their 12 year run as a studio group / creative force with the release of Riot Act. I am including MOTH and cold confession, which takes it through 2004, 14 years since forming. I think CC was the last creatively aspiring tune they recorded (that we've heard). The evolution of the reception of S/T and Backspacer in the years since their release support that theory. Maybe LB will change that, but I highly doubt it (and i actually do enjoy the new tunes).
My attempt here is to present this 14 year run in a new and comprehensive way.
This thread is a good source, and I will use it and try to provide any additional input as I go through this project.
I finally got around to finalizing all of this, tracking it, editing for volume/fades/lengths, tagging it, and uploading the results if anyone is interested in some links. I posted and edited the final tracklist earlier in this thread. Eight discs total, MP3's. PM me if interested.
pm sent. im very impressed by this. and i've always wanted someone to edit out writer's block from parting ways
just wanted to plug this compilation. hlniv did a fantastic job here. the sound is great, the sequencing is great, it's great to have stuff like aty/hummus and p. ways/writer's block separated, and the bonus stuff is great too. thanks a ton.
Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Wed January 08, 2014 5:08 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 5:47 pm Posts: 3044 Location: Louisville, KY
I'd like to summarize and ask a couple of questions -
Pearl Jam Anthology 1990-2012 Disc 1 - 1990-1991 studio compilation (pre-Dave A) Ten, b-sides, misc/demo Disc 2 - 1992-1993 studio compilation (mostly Dave A) Primarily Vs, b-sides, misc/demo Disc 3 - 1993-1994 studio compilation (all Dave A) Vs/Vitalogy, b-sides, misc Discs 4 & 5 - 1995-1998 studio compilation (all Jack) No Code / Yield, b-sides, misc Disc 6 - 1999-2000 studio compilation (re-tracked Binaural + b-sides, misc) Disc 7 - 2001-2004 studio compilation (re-tracked Riot Act + b-sides, misc) Discs 8 & 9 - 2005-2012 live compilation (S/T, Backspacer live cuts, plus selected covers & misc) Disc 10 - Bonus Cuts 1990-2012 studio compilation (selected demos/misc tracks not included above) Discs 11 & 12 - 1991-1994 live compilation (all Dave A) improvs, unique versions, covers Disc 13 - 1995-1998 live compilation (all Jack Irons) improvs, unique versions, covers) Disc 14 - Outtakes (additional recordings that just didn't fit)
I think I'm going to stop there, the 98, 00, & 03 tours have already been extensively cut into compilations by many others. The live tracks in this set are meant only to be complimentary to their studio output from 1990-2004, and reflect on the band during the time period.
Many of these tracks have been edited for volume, fades, intro/outros, lengths, etc... Simply cobbling together the album cuts won't transition as well.
For many reasons, I chose to not to put this together in FLAC. The vast majority of these have either never been available in lossless format, or have been released and are widely available elsewhere in lossless formats. All tracks are 256K+ mp3 (i think).
Many of these tracks are leaked/unreleased, some are commercially available, some are not. Many of the commercially available tracks have been edited in some way.
Discs 12, 13, & 14 are not yet complete.
I have not created artwork or extensive tagging, and some of these tracks likely include artwork and other tags left over from where I pulled them from.
My questions for this forum-
#1 - I'd like to make this available to anyone who is interested, but I'm not sure as to the rules of distribution of a fan made project such as this. I'm guessing I can't just post links here. I think all of the discs have questionable tracks as to whether or not they are kosher to post here. Can someone provide me with some guidance on this?
#2 - Is there anyone out there that would like to help with tagging / artwork? I'd certainly be open to that. I'm not exactly an expert with such matters. (In fact, this is really my first attempt at any sort of compilation work & discs 8 & 9 need some crowd transition work)
Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
Posted: Thu January 09, 2014 2:40 am
Lost Cat
Joined: Thu January 09, 2014 2:32 am Posts: 2
Alive from the three song sampler is different from the rest. I'd have to listen to it again, but what stood out the mist was the solo being so different from the album version on ten.
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