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tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:18 pm

Ed
Stone
Jeff
Mike
Kelly Curtis

vs.

Dave A

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:20 pm

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

is it generally accepted that Animal is about gang rape?

no

Disagreed

You disagree that it is generally accepted to be a about rape? You think most people think it's a rape song?

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:21 pm

I think it's totally valid to interpret the song as a rape song. That makes sense. I was no-ing the idea that it's generally accepted as such.

Anders · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:22 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:

Ed
Stone
Jeff
Mike
Kelly Curtis

vs.

Dave A

No way would Ed at the time write from Dave A’s angle.

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:23 pm

I don't remember where I read/heard it, but I've had it in my head for a long time that the "Five" in question is Kelley, Stone, Jeff, Mike, and Dave and the "One" is Ed.

dimejinky99 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am **Posts:** 35481

tragabigzanda wrote:

is it generally accepted that Animal is about gang rape?

What do four out of five people enjoy?

Gang rape.

Five against one though. Its just ed being a Whiney poor me bitch

dimejinky99 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am **Posts:** 35481

durdencommatyler wrote:

I don't remember where I read/heard it, but I've had it in my head for a long time that the "Five" in question is Kelley, Stone, Jeff, Mike, and Dave and the "One" is Ed.

Bingo

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21842

Animal is more of a character sketch than a song. Or just a...base emotion, I guess.

I don’t think the “Ed writes primarily about Ed” era really exists outside of Vitalogy/No Code.

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 10:55 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:

1. Is it torture or torch her? I think this has some bearing

2. It's just something picked up years ago and dirt of accepted as gospel. Have had it reinforced elsewhere, but the lyrics are otherwise ambiguous enough that i'd be happy to entertain other interpretations

It's 100% "torture."

Kevin Davis · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm **Posts:** 8566

dimejinky99 wrote:

plus, dave only had one beat..why go, Go, Animal, daughter..and probably loads more..just the same beat at different speeds..
dude could hit hard for sure and overused cymbals to death but hes overrated..he just happened to be their drummer while they were famous..

Despite Dave's reputation as a heavy-hitting monster drummer, where I really miss him is on songs like "Daughter" and "Elderly Woman" -- his tasteful hi-hat (I think) work on those songs is something no drummer since has replicated, to the detriment of later performances (even though the band as a whole has occasionally taken them to more interesting places).

The hand-wringing over the personal stuff with Dave is not something I identify with at all -- I wish these dudes the best, but more power to them if they don't want to turn their musical retrospectives into tell-all docu-dramas. I struggle to believe the guy was as singularly important to their success as has been suggested, and would imagine that -- musically speaking, anyway -- there's far less that the band "leaves out" of their history by not constantly feeling the need to bring up Dave than people seem to think.

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:05 pm

Kevin. Fucking. Davis. :hooray:

Kevin Davis · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm **Posts:** 8566

How you been, Joe?

Strat · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:26 pm

I thought it was "Torch lit from you to me"

Passing the torch, a voice of a generation, etc.etc.

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:29 pm

Strat wrote:

I thought it was "Torch lit from you to me"

Passing the torch, a voice of a generation, etc.etc.

This is more possible and makes more sense than "touch her."

But it's still "torture."

Strat · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:29 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

I thought it was "Torch lit from you to me"

Passing the torch, a voice of a generation, etc.etc.

This is more possible and makes more sense than "touch her."

But it's still "torture."

so says pj.com but im not convinced.

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21842

A duck tit from the street.

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

I thought it was "Torch lit from you to me"

Passing the torch, a voice of a generation, etc.etc.

This is more possible and makes more sense than "touch her."

But it's still "torture."

so says pj.com but im not convinced.

Wait, PJ dot com says "torture"...

Okay, it's 100% not "torture."

Strat · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Oh, i see why we are maybe on this debate (which is way more interesting than a dave a debate). The booklet says "torch her" and pj.com says "torture"

Its torch lit though.

8-)

epilogue · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:32 pm

McParadigm wrote:

A duck tit from the street.

FUCK DUCKS!

bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Thu October 25, 2018 11:32 pm

Tore chore

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