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guitar_davey wrote:
Always loved this one and could never understand it being as widely panned as it seems to be.
Gone gives me a similar feel to In Hiding, which I also love. Also super into what the band did with Ed's demo.
In Hiding is a good comparison; I always found its aaaaaaaeeeiiiiiieeeeeee chorus kind of annoying, but I don't have any strong feelings of hatred for the song, there's a lot of good things happening around that under-written chorus and same goes for ATW imho
I'm currently listening to "Gremmy out of Control"
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12154 Location: Warwickshire, UK
theplatypus wrote:
"In Hiding" actually achieves lift-off, IMO, while "Gone" sounds forever mired in muck
while I don't necessarily agree (I don't think "Gone" requires the stratospheric lift-off "In Hiding" achieved), I know and hear exactly what you mean so if it falls flat for you I respect that
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12154 Location: Warwickshire, UK
to begin with, I find "Gone" to be a real melancholic, bittersweet song; there's pain mixed in with the resolve to leave a bad situation that has nothing left for you, but that you will have to mourn; and I think the music's hesitation to really become a triumphant hymn of freedom reflects that
Always loved this one and could never understand it being as widely panned as it seems to be.
Gone gives me a similar feel to In Hiding, which I also love. Also super into what the band did with Ed's demo.
In Hiding is a good comparison; I always found its aaaaaaaeeeiiiiiieeeeeee chorus kind of annoying, but I don't have any strong feelings of hatred for the song, there's a lot of good things happening around that under-written chorus and same goes for ATW imho
I'm currently listening to "Gremmy out of Control"
I can get behind the idea that the chorus is underdeveloped, as is the chorus for ATW, even though I enjoy both songs.
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12154 Location: Warwickshire, UK
I think half-baked choruses have maybe always been a thing with this band, it's just that they spent so long just very stylishly getting away with it; now it's a glaring flaw when surrounding aspects of their sound aren't as powerfully stellar as they used to be
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Ms Harmless wrote:
to begin with, I find "Gone" to be a real melancholic, bittersweet song; there's pain mixed in with the resolve to leave a bad situation that has nothing left for you, but that you will have to mourn; and I think the music's hesitation to really become a triumphant hymn of freedom reflects that
I agree conceptually but EJ is right in that it doesn’t quite pull off what it’s going for.
But the chorus gets there for me and I prefer the substance to the immature in hiding.
In hiding, gone, and amongst the waves are pretty similar songs - no one song gets it all right
I can see the comparison to Gone, but I've never seen the relation between Waves and In Hiding, even though the comparison is often made. I guess broadly they're both mid-tempo inspirational songs, but In Hiding is far more musically nimble; Amongst the Waves tends to feel like a slower, more plodding song than it actually is.
But In Hiding is by far the best song; I actually think Waves and Gone are two of the worst songs on their respective albums. Maybe they've just lost the ability to throw that particular pitch.
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