This is so much better than the “leak” made it seem.

Adult contempo, Sirens esc. A Petty turd.

It's funny. How long has this band been around now? Thirty years or so? And they still do the same thing. Songs that "fit" neat categories. It's not bad for what it is, but eh.

I love Until the End of the World on that one.

Our college radio station played Seconds and I had to just keep listening to the whole album after that. Such a GREAT sounding record.

This sounds great on my 15 year old Sennheiser corded headphones streaming off Apple Music in normal Non-Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos.

I have no issues with the drum sounds. The guitars and bass sound rich and clear. Lots of little details happening out on the fringes.

The drums sound live, natural and beautiful. Watt has crafted one of the most beautiful sounding and well produced songs I've heard in years

Forgive my subject change, but I'm always curious about sayings in different countries. Is this the phrase used there? Here in the States it is the "home stretch". I wonder how/why it changed for us here?

I'm not sure tbh! I understand home stretch as well; I think strait is specific to running? and I've also heard it in Formula 1, which my dad used to love growing up (it's generally pretty popular here among the middle class especially)

Stone said this came later in the process, at Shangri-La and that his said this one keeps revealing itself to him. His understanding of the song has been a slow burn and is now one of his favorites from DM.

haha yeah, I watch a lot of F1 and hear it there, but they are always announcers from the UK saying it!

This is great. I love it.

He sounds so good. I love the background vocals.

lol yep

Aunt_Claire_Foy posted the lyrics in the dark matter thread


Visited by thought
Another darkened day
How you are like the sun
Hiding somewhere beyond the rain

I’m needing for the light
Stormy is the grey
Rivers overflowing
Drowning all our yesterdays

Visited by thoughts
On another darkened week
How even every winner
Hits a losing streak

The mistakes we all make
And perfectly repeat
Chains are made, by dna refusing
Refusing to release

Combing through the wreckage
Pouring through the sand
Surrounded by the remnants
What we could and couldn’t have

Raking through the ashes
Falling through my hands
Charcoal on the faces in the
Burned up photographs

Visited by thoughts
And this I got to say
If you’re feeling the leaving
I can’t make you stay

I’ve only ever wanted
For it not to be this way
But you’re now like the water
And the water will find its way

Combing through the wreckage
Holding out,... holding on
Combing through the wreckage
Combing through the wreckage

Visited by thoughts
And not just in the night
That I no longer give a fuck
Who is wrong and who’s right

This game of winner takes all
And all means nothing left
Spoils go the victor
And the other left for dead

Combing through the wreckage
Holding out,... holding on
Combing through the wreckage

Combing through the wreckage
Falling through the wreckage
Crawling through the wreckage
Combing through the wreckage.

Oooooh, I love etymology talk!
Could be it comes from horse racing?
You know, England's staple pastime.

ah yeah it's definitely used in horse racing too

also according to Google I should be using the word "straight"; strait means something different? I will continue to use "strait" though as I am allergic to the other word

A strait would a body of water.
Dire Straits, remember

Now the reasons I think this is about a divorce/lost relationship and not Chris Cornell....



To me, this is saying that the person whose absence is darkening him is still out there but just not available to him. Reminds me of "I know some day you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star, in somebody else's sky, but why, why, why, can't it be, oh can't it be mine?"



Comes off to me as talking about damage done after years of repeating the same patterns, past trauma etc, like a long relationship that finally fractures after years of making the same mistakes and not fixing them.



The charcoal on faces in the burned up photographs thing just feels too personal to me. I see this as being surrounded by old and now sour memories of the life he had and lost.



This could be about anything, the death of somebody who committed suicide surely, but also just the simple explanation of somebody wanted to leave him and they did, and there's nothing he can do about it anymore. (this theme will play into other lyrics on other songs that seem to support that reading, but we will get to that when the album releases)


This part is IMO the biggest sign this is about a relationship gone sour and not about a friend's death. They used to argue, and it seems unimportant now. That in their quest to be right, and win arguments, etc, they were left with everything (they won) and nothing (they lost the other). I see the "left for dead" part as a double meaning. An expression of how little he and the other person cared about the other and the effect they had on them in their quest to be right, and also him now being left alone by the other, which he is slightly resentful of. So both regretful (I didn't care about your feelings) and mournful/resentful (you don't care for mine).

I see this song as Eddie having been left by somebody he cares about, and he is sad, regretful for his own part in it, acknowledging the patterns that led them there, and slightly angry that it happened and he is surrounded by the remnants to sort through the 'wreckage' he has been left with, his old life now reduced to painful memories.

This reading IMO is also supported by (Spoilers for unreleased song lyrics)

Spoiler: show

Setting Sun, in which Eddie seems to mourn that he tried to repair and hold on to a love with somebody he thought he would be with forever, but they left him, and though he still sees them together he feels that the other person does not. To me there is a mixture of betrayal and regret and desperation.

Now the reasons I think this is about a divorce/lost relationship and not Chris Cornell....



To me, this is saying that the person whose absence is darkening him is still out there but just not available to him. Reminds me of "I know some day you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star, in somebody else's sky, but why, why, why, can't it be, oh can't it be mine?"



Comes off to me as talking about damage done after years of repeating the same patterns, past trauma etc, like a long relationship that finally fractures after years of making the same mistakes and not fixing them.



The charcoal on faces in the burned up photographs thing just feels too personal to me. I see this as being surrounded by old and now sour memories of the life he had and lost.



This could be about anything, the death of somebody who committed suicide surely, but also just the simple explanation of somebody wanted to leave him and they did, and there's nothing he can do about it anymore. (this theme will play into other lyrics on other songs that seem to support that reading, but we will get to that when the album releases)


This part is IMO the biggest sign this is about a relationship gone sour and not about a friend's death. They used to argue, and it seems unimportant now. That in their quest to be right, and win arguments, etc, they were left with everything (they won) and nothing (they lost the other). I see the "left for dead" part as a double meaning. An expression of how little he and the other person cared about the other and the effect they had on them in their quest to be right, and also him now being left alone by the other, which he is slightly resentful of. So both regretful (I didn't care about your feelings) and mournful/resentful (you don't care for mine).

I see this song as Eddie having been left by somebody he cares about, and he is sad, regretful for his own part in it, acknowledging the patterns that led them there, and slightly angry that it happened and he is surrounded by the remnants to sort through the 'wreckage' he has been left with, his old life now reduced to painful memories.

This reading IMO is also supported by (Spoilers for unreleased song lyrics)

Spoiler: show

Setting Sun, in which Eddie seems to mourn that he tried to repair and hold on to a love with somebody he thought he would be with forever, but they left him, and though he still sees them together he feels that the other person does not. To me there is a mixture of betrayal and regret and desperation.

it means narrow, strict, constricted, as in strait-laced or strait-jacket, does that sound relevant to the water thing?