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stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39922

liebzz wrote:

EBowie wrote:

The current album sucks compared to the previous one.

Usually, it’s the current new album is great, the last one sucked, and this other one we used to say sucks is now the underrated gem of the catalogue. Oh, and the production is terrible and it’s all compressed.

We’re all just a series of AI hot takes. The original takes haven’t been acceptable in years.

Red Mosquito has never been united around a new album being good since at least Binaural, with the arguable exception of Gigaton and maybe S/T

Anders · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 3:11 pm

Binaural was a long time ago, but I think it did split the Pearl Jam online community.

Gigaton was the most peaceful I can remember since Yield.

oneway23 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:57 am **Posts:** 1955

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 4:58 pm

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39922

I think that's pretty much every fanbase (newer albums recontextualizing old ones - they make it easier to appreciate a record for what it was trying to do, rather than hold the full weight of a fan base's needs and expectations)

Bammer · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 5:43 pm

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Lol bammer uses the word "wokes"

Absolutely surrounded.

bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 6:01 pm

wouldn’t it be “the awoken”?

lvc · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 8:05 pm

bodysnatcher wrote:

wouldn’t it be “the awoken”?

Those whom stayed woke.

lvc · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 8:06 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

Interesting. So comparison is the birth of joy?

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Tue March 26, 2024 8:33 pm

lvc wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

Interesting. So comparison is the birth of joy?

Hmm I'm not sure about that. I think with SY specifically they were always pretty interested in pushing their own boundaries, and really comfortable in releasing things that weren't all easy to love at first sight. An album like A Thousand Leaves felt like a weird detour down the same path at Ghosts and Flowers, but in retrospect felt like a bridge to Murray Street.

spike · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am **Posts:** 28185

Sonic Youth is unlistenable.

Anders · **Posted:** Wed March 27, 2024 4:49 am

I’m not a fan either.

oneway23 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:57 am **Posts:** 1955

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

I really need to drop in on them again. I own pretty much everything through Washing Machine, but, haven't listened to a new record of theirs since.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Fri March 29, 2024 2:23 am

oneway23 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

I really need to drop in on them again. I own pretty much everything through Washing Machine, but, haven't listened to a new record of theirs since.

Oh no! You left at the worst possible time.

A Thousand Leaves - B+
Murray St - A+
Sonic Nurse - A+
Rather Ripped - A
(The Eternal - D)

oneway23 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:57 am **Posts:** 1955

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Wilco is the only band where the new album serves to unite the fanbase in finally accepting the one prior.
A new album to hate allows the positive qualities of the last one to shine through.

We haven't achieved that level of consensus here since the board re-booted.

Good take! I'd argue Sonic Youth tended to enjoy a similar backward-looking reassessment mentality from its fanbase.

I really need to drop in on them again. I own pretty much everything through Washing Machine, but, haven't listened to a new record of theirs since.

Oh no! You left at the worst possible time.

A Thousand Leaves - B+
Murray St - A+
Sonic Nurse - A+
Rather Ripped - A
(The Eternal - D)

Fantastic! Looking forward to checking some of these out, thanks....Which is your favorite?

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Fri March 29, 2024 2:39 am

Probably Sonic Nurse, but I’d pick Murray St on a different day.

Rather Ripped is surprising for how relatively straightforward it is. The songs have actual hooks.

oneway23 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:57 am **Posts:** 1955

tragabigzanda wrote:

Probably Sonic Nurse, but I’d pick Murray St on a different day.

Rather Ripped is surprising for how relatively straightforward it is. The songs have actual hooks.

Deep in the midst of my annual John Zorn deep dive, but, I'll make time to check a few of these out, cause I'm a swell fella.

Ledbetterdays · **Joined:** Tue January 29, 2013 3:45 am **Posts:** 191

In the early 90's it seemed like it would be amazing to grow old with Pearl Jam and its fans. This is proof that dream did not become a reality.

oneway23 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:57 am **Posts:** 1955

Ledbetterdays wrote:

In the early 90's it seemed like it would be amazing to grow old with Pearl Jam and its fans. This is proof that dream did not become a reality.

Did you envision yourself living in an ashram full of fellow Pearl Jam fans when you grew up?

Ledbetterdays · **Joined:** Tue January 29, 2013 3:45 am **Posts:** 191

oneway23 wrote:

Ledbetterdays wrote:

In the early 90's it seemed like it would be amazing to grow old with Pearl Jam and its fans. This is proof that dream did not become a reality.

Did you envision yourself living in an ashram full of fellow Pearl Jam fans when you grew up?

Well, I had to look up ashram--which I appreciate because I like to learn things--and the answer is no. In 2024 neither Pearl Jam nor their fans are cool (too old and cranky) and an ashram full would be like going to a movie theater and listening to the new album in the dark with them.

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