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Strat wrote:
Only 1 listen but biggest letdown and i blame all the hype. Still was really fucking awesome though? Looking forward to working through it quite a bit more.
Mike is shredding all over this album but i wouldnt say he has very memorable solos? At least not yet, perhaps.
This outro could have maybe benefited from crafting some sort of beginning, middle, and end as far as the solo goes.
Most of the time on this Album I prefer the song to the solo section end the end of a lot of songs. The solos feel very very spontaenously improvised. They bring a whole lot energy but are not very memorable.
I never remember solos or jams, they're always very much an "in the moment" experience for me
I’m the same, with some rare and notable exceptions, solo’s are really about the feel. Just a straight album solo doesn’t do much for me. My favorite on DM is the solo at the end of Won’t Tell and it’s not even really a solo. Now, when I see a band play live, of course, it’s a different matter.
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Homeboyd wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
I never remember solos or jams, they're always very much an "in the moment" experience for me
I’m the same, with some rare and notable exceptions, solo’s are really about the feel. Just a straight album solo doesn’t do much for me. My favorite on DM is the solo at the end of Won’t Tell and it’s not even really a solo. Now, when I see a band play live, of course, it’s a different matter.
however I'm really enjoying all the jamming on the album (sure, not all of it's "necessary" but is that the point in art?) and the mix up of styles and peaks and troughs of energy definitely does feel like a PJ concert
I never remember solos or jams, they're always very much an "in the moment" experience for me
I’m the same, with some rare and notable exceptions, solo’s are really about the feel. Just a straight album solo doesn’t do much for me. My favorite on DM is the solo at the end of Won’t Tell and it’s not even really a solo. Now, when I see a band play live, of course, it’s a different matter.
however I'm really enjoying all the jamming on the album (sure, not all of it's "necessary" but is that the point in art?) and the mix up of styles and peaks and troughs of energy definitely does feel like a PJ concert
I certainly don’t mind them at all on DM and I think if Upper Hand and WFS weren’t back to back I doubt it wouldn’t even really get noticed. I think both songs benefit from having a live feel to the outro.
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Mike wrote:
Strat wrote:
Only 1 listen but biggest letdown and i blame all the hype. Still was really fucking awesome though? Looking forward to working through it quite a bit more.
Mike is shredding all over this album but i wouldnt say he has very memorable solos? At least not yet, perhaps.
This outro could have maybe benefited from crafting some sort of beginning, middle, and end as far as the solo goes.
Most of the time on this Album I prefer the song to the solo section end the end of a lot of songs. The solos feel very very spontaenously improvised. They bring a whole lot energy but are not very memorable.
So far that’s been my experience. But it may be that there are so many none immediately stood out
They feel like his live improvs, which I suppose they are
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12240 Location: Warwickshire, UK
stip wrote:
Mike wrote:
Strat wrote:
Only 1 listen but biggest letdown and i blame all the hype. Still was really fucking awesome though? Looking forward to working through it quite a bit more.
Mike is shredding all over this album but i wouldnt say he has very memorable solos? At least not yet, perhaps.
This outro could have maybe benefited from crafting some sort of beginning, middle, and end as far as the solo goes.
Most of the time on this Album I prefer the song to the solo section end the end of a lot of songs. The solos feel very very spontaenously improvised. They bring a whole lot energy but are not very memorable.
So far that’s been my experience. But it may be that there are so many none immediately stood out
They feel like his live improvs, which I suppose they are
that ascending wobbly high note at the end of R/R is awesome though
I was expecting this to be great and it is. The early 90s PJ comparisons do make sense, especially with Eddie's sustained notes throughout and Mike's crazy solo. The song I didn't think they'd make, but they did. And I am grateful. 5 stars.
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One of Pearl Jams biggest strengths is the ability to improvise off the cuff on the live setting. This really come from a musical brotherhood they share a five against one mentality. They as a band are light years better than the individual. There are instances they have brought this to the studio. Present Tense is a great example as is Alive. I want to feel this as well as hear it on every song to a certain extent. I like the Gilmore reference by Mike. Mike is really good at deciding when to compose a solo like in Daughter and when to just let it rip like in Dark Matter. As a guitar player I think it's one of his strengths. I desperately wanted this album to feel like 5 brothers letting loose in room. It accomplished that in spades. The extended jams that don't feel composed are the primary reason. On some of the poppier stuff they would not work quite as well which means every that is not of that ilk sit nicely with a outro jam. Yes I may have preferred a little more of a raw production on these, but that would have felt a little odd juxtaposed against the poppies songs. So I guess my point is the solo here on this one is meant to live in the moment and not remembered and I love that. I will say composed solo early in the song may have been welcomed, but it isn't missing either.
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Fuck this song is awesome. Hearing the leak mp3 in headphones for the first time (turned down a little from usual so not an ears assault) and it's just perfection and Matt's drumming is the best I've ever heard in this band.
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