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Gigaton, for the most part, sounded to me like Eddie sounds now, I think the positive thing there was more in the songwriting; he found ways to highlight the positive aspects of what his voice can deliver now. These new songs sound like he's moving farther outside of that space, so the results end up sounding like they've got a lot of polish on them (DM) or kind of confused, like the end of Running; I love what he's doing at the beginning of the track, where he sounds really locked in on the verses, but I don't know what he's going for at the end.
Some people on Reddit pointing to time stamps on DM and Running saying they can hear autotune. Honestly, I haven't listened enough to say one way or another, and I kind of accept that virtually every singer today uses at least a little autotune. But I think your point is right on the money.
IIRC there was a wayward Ed moment on Life Wasted that was autotuned compared to the rough mix that was circulated.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
digster wrote:
Gigaton, for the most part, sounded to me like Eddie sounds now, I think the positive thing there was more in the songwriting; he found ways to highlight the positive aspects of what his voice can deliver now. These new songs sound like he's moving farther outside of that space, so the results end up sounding like they've got a lot of polish on them (DM) or kind of confused, like the end of Running; I love what he's doing at the beginning of the track, where he sounds really locked in on the verses, but I don't know what he's going for at the end.
Some people on Reddit pointing to time stamps on DM and Running saying they can hear autotune. Honestly, I haven't listened enough to say one way or another, and I kind of accept that virtually every singer today uses at least a little autotune. But I think your point is right on the money.
IIRC there was a wayward Ed moment on Life Wasted that was autotuned compared to the rough mix that was circulated.
Ed sounded good to great on both Gigaton and Earthling. Can't say the same for these two new songs. They both employ quite a bit of production trickery that really marr the emotional weight of the delivery. He also makes some weird choices with pushing out that fake scream talking thing (ex. "outro to Running).
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and yet, Earthling is definitely autotuned in spots as well
Oh I’m sure. But he’s not doing anything ridiculously out of his then-current range, so I view it as a means to an end, e.g. if it keeps the sessions running it’s no less valid than doing 10 takes until he gets it perfect. If it realistically could’ve happened, then a little fix here and there is all good.
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somehow this bothers me little about modern ed
it's the whole approach now, too many words/micro machines delivery, breathiness, strange pronunciations, all the tics and crutches, and his tendency toward random soap-star glam bridges
i guess it was the avocado era where he ruined his voice for good
so now this is what he has left to work with
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I don't think the imperfections in his voice ruin the songs, the song-writing ruins the songs; I think all this bothers me less right now because I like these songs, and I do think he's fixed some of those tics and mannerisms in both Earthling and here; I don't think we'll ever get all of them fixed for every song on every album; it seems like with every fix comes a different problem; at the end of the day, it's the songs that count
it's the whole approach now, too many words/micro machines delivery, breathiness, strange pronunciations, all the tics and crutches, and his tendency toward random soap-star glam bridges
i guess it was the avocado era where he ruined his voice for good
so now this is what he has left to work with
The VH1 rock honors for the who is my personal demarcation point....that performance is staggering, but, there was a price
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and I don't really think there's anything on these songs he couldn't naturally sing (but maybe he's gonna struggle singing them thirty or so nights in a row on tour)
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I had my doubts how well he could naturally sing "Invincible" off Earthlings, there's a lot more vocal acrobatics going on there than on Dark Matter so far
it's the whole approach now, too many words/micro machines delivery, breathiness, strange pronunciations, all the tics and crutches, and his tendency toward random soap-star glam bridges
i guess it was the avocado era where he ruined his voice for good
so now this is what he has left to work with
The VH1 rock honors for the who is my personal demarcation point....that performance is staggering, but, there was a price
Almost worth it !
Love those performances so much but I agree. He will write about that in his book someday
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
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96583UP wrote:
somehow this bothers me little about modern ed
it's the whole approach now, too many words/micro machines delivery, breathiness, strange pronunciations, all the tics and crutches, and his tendency toward random soap-star glam bridges
i guess it was the avocado era where he ruined his voice for good
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
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a bit late on the fake streaming conversation... but i paid facebook once $10 to promote a music video exclusively to bangladesh? (i think) and i got 5000 reactions that were just bots and gibberish..
not many actual clicks.
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