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Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by liebzz » Thu March 28, 2024 2:58 pm

VinylGuy wrote:U2 post Atchung has amazing albums… The Stones too.

PJ discography is nearly flawless to me; I do wish they had at least two or three more records though

That’s more like it. My intention is to take a short sabbatical (I mean, that’s what it is at this point) from the live albums to listen through the catalogue again, in maybe a slightly different way, to lead into Dark Matter. Relive my youth leading into this thing for a proper hype up for this album.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by guitar_davey » Thu March 28, 2024 3:02 pm

EBowie wrote:If Lightning Bolt remains their worst album (which I think it is), we're in damn good shape overall as music fans.

This. PJ has been a very consistently good band, despite what some people think.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Ms Harmless » Thu March 28, 2024 3:02 pm

Jorge wrote:I'm surprised Bukowski managed to become a millionaire


people lap up the drunk, horny and sad poet shtick
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Thurman Murman » Thu March 28, 2024 3:06 pm

guitar_davey wrote:
EBowie wrote:If Lightning Bolt remains their worst album (which I think it is), we're in damn good shape overall as music fans.

This. PJ has been a very consistently good band, despite what some people think.


Absolutely. Its really the only album of theirs i have no interest in revisiting.

Even Backspacer, which i have firmly in 2nd last place in the catalogue is at least an enjoyable listen from my POV.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Coach » Thu March 28, 2024 3:16 pm

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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by stip » Thu March 28, 2024 3:20 pm

Jorge wrote:I'm surprised Bukowski managed to become a millionaire

I probably have about 25 of his books and compilations. Haven't gone back to them in years, though
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by VinylGuy » Thu March 28, 2024 3:46 pm

liebzz wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:U2 post Atchung has amazing albums… The Stones too.

PJ discography is nearly flawless to me; I do wish they had at least two or three more records though

That’s more like it. My intention is to take a short sabbatical (I mean, that’s what it is at this point) from the live albums to listen through the catalogue again, in maybe a slightly different way, to lead into Dark Matter. Relive my youth leading into this thing for a proper hype up for this album.


Oh fuck yes
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Ms Harmless » Thu March 28, 2024 3:47 pm

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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by stip » Thu March 28, 2024 4:18 pm

VinylGuy wrote:
liebzz wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:U2 post Atchung has amazing albums… The Stones too.

PJ discography is nearly flawless to me; I do wish they had at least two or three more records though

That’s more like it. My intention is to take a short sabbatical (I mean, that’s what it is at this point) from the live albums to listen through the catalogue again, in maybe a slightly different way, to lead into Dark Matter. Relive my youth leading into this thing for a proper hype up for this album.


Oh fuck yes


the perfect occasion to revisit the 'Lets Actually Listen'threads
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by RockPusher » Thu March 28, 2024 4:26 pm

Clem Halibut wrote:With this album at this stage in the bands career, I'm just hoping for a few songs that have that "magic"
Basically, PJ songs that only PJ can make; songs that remind me of why I love this band.
Every album has had it's moments...Gigaton was really surprising and had the following

DOTC
Quick Escape
Alright
7'Oclock
Buckle Up
Comes Then Goes

All of the above are killer songs (in my opinion) and songs that I actually seek out and go back to.
Out of all the albums since ST....Gigaton had the most.

Lightning Bolt & Backspacer have barely any of those songs & I hardly ever get the urge to go back and listen to those albums.

I don't think PJ have made a truly perfect album since Yield.
Binaural is debatable - The backside of that album is actually one of my favorite run of songs ever
Riot Act comes close too. Love Boat Captain, Thumbing my Way, 1/2 Full, You Are & All Or None are all top tier songs for me, but the album as a whole just has too many mediocre songs sandwiched in between the classics. The shitty songs on Riot Act are songs that I probably haven't listened to or have wanted to listen to for over 20 years now.

This stage in the bands career is kind of like The Who post Keith Moon, the Stones post Exile, & U2 post Achtung Baby
It's a period where you'll get some real great songs from time to time but mostly just a bunch of misses, formulaic, or just plain awful and uninspired songs.

Bukowski once wrote about the difficulty of now being a millionaire, and still trying to write like a hobo:

"As the sprit wanes, the form appears"

This may be the problem with modern day PJ


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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by liebzz » Thu March 28, 2024 4:34 pm

stip wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
liebzz wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:U2 post Atchung has amazing albums… The Stones too.

PJ discography is nearly flawless to me; I do wish they had at least two or three more records though

That’s more like it. My intention is to take a short sabbatical (I mean, that’s what it is at this point) from the live albums to listen through the catalogue again, in maybe a slightly different way, to lead into Dark Matter. Relive my youth leading into this thing for a proper hype up for this album.


Oh fuck yes


the perfect occasion to revisit the 'Lets Actually Listen'threads

Yes! I actually prepped a little in my nerdiness for this by creating Spotify playlists to tackle the catalogue in a slightly organized fashion, but with intention to handle it slightly differently.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by DDWJMUVW » Thu March 28, 2024 4:48 pm

https://x.com/emirecords/status/1773387 ... PQo4iKQC4g

Go frame by frame and you can see some lyrics from upper hand toward the end.

The rest look to be blurred but, I def see

“Lonely ship” and “silhouette “ which you can clearly make out in metal door clip 4.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Val » Thu March 28, 2024 4:57 pm

I wonder why there weren't any follow ups on that Something Special snippet anywhere.

I mean, they already sort of leaked it in that sports broadcast
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by Ms Harmless » Thu March 28, 2024 5:02 pm

Val wrote:I wonder why there weren't any follow ups on that Something Special snippet anywhere.

I mean, they already sort of leaked it in that sports broadcast


I thought there were gonna be more song snippets for the March Madness basketball but those haven't emerged either
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by RockPusher » Thu March 28, 2024 5:15 pm

DDWJMUVW wrote:https://x.com/emirecords/status/1773387652957385128?s=46&t=hkPNtPUg-OrEPQo4iKQC4g

Go frame by frame and you can see some lyrics from upper hand toward the end.

The rest look to be blurred but, I def see

“Lonely ship” and “silhouette “ which you can clearly make out in metal door clip 4.


Good sleuthing. So where are we at with titles attached to the snippets?
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by DDWJMUVW » Thu March 28, 2024 5:16 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:
Val wrote:I wonder why there weren't any follow ups on that Something Special snippet anywhere.

I mean, they already sort of leaked it in that sports broadcast


I thought there were gonna be more song snippets for the March Madness basketball but those haven't emerged either


Really feels like they’ve slept on the promotion thus far.

Seemed a lot more deliberate and purposeful with Gig. It’s been very disjointed and random with DM. It feels like they’re kind of making it up as they go along. And I’m not even sure who “they” is. Is Kelly Curtis still their guy that makes these decisions?
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by tragabigzanda » Thu March 28, 2024 5:18 pm

No, Curtis retired some years ago
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by DDWJMUVW » Thu March 28, 2024 5:18 pm

RockPusher wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:https://x.com/emirecords/status/1773387652957385128?s=46&t=hkPNtPUg-OrEPQo4iKQC4g

Go frame by frame and you can see some lyrics from upper hand toward the end.

The rest look to be blurred but, I def see

“Lonely ship” and “silhouette “ which you can clearly make out in metal door clip 4.


Good sleuthing. So where are we at with titles attached to the snippets?


In order:

React, Respond
Wreckage
DM (obviously)
Upper Hand
Won’t Tell
WFS
Something Special (obviously)
Got to Give


There are your 8 clips. We’ve heard zippy from SOF and Setting Sun. Running of course is out.

That gets you to the magic # 11.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by RockPusher » Thu March 28, 2024 5:21 pm

DDWJMUVW wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:https://x.com/emirecords/status/1773387652957385128?s=46&t=hkPNtPUg-OrEPQo4iKQC4g

Go frame by frame and you can see some lyrics from upper hand toward the end.

The rest look to be blurred but, I def see

“Lonely ship” and “silhouette “ which you can clearly make out in metal door clip 4.


Good sleuthing. So where are we at with titles attached to the snippets?


In order:

React, Respond
Wreckage
DM (obviously)
Upper Hand
Won’t Tell
WFS
Something Special (obviously)
Got to Give


There are your 8 clips. We’ve heard zippy from SOF and Setting Sun. Running of course is out.

That gets you to the magic # 11.


Awesome. Thank you. Based on this, out of what we've heard I am most looking forward to WFS (that moment in the snippets where the tension releases is just fantastic), Got to Give (snippet ends just as it sounds like a righteous jam is about to start) and React, Respond. I think Upper Hand could be interesting, and I am extremely curious about SOF and Setting Sun.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

by sweeper » Thu March 28, 2024 7:28 pm

DDWJMUVW wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:https://x.com/emirecords/status/1773387652957385128?s=46&t=hkPNtPUg-OrEPQo4iKQC4g

Go frame by frame and you can see some lyrics from upper hand toward the end.

The rest look to be blurred but, I def see

“Lonely ship” and “silhouette “ which you can clearly make out in metal door clip 4.


Good sleuthing. So where are we at with titles attached to the snippets?


In order:

React, Respond
Wreckage
DM (obviously)
Upper Hand
Won’t Tell
WFS
Something Special (obviously)
Got to Give


There are your 8 clips. We’ve heard zippy from SOF and Setting Sun. Running of course is out.

That gets you to the magic # 11.


Yup, I think you nailed it. Nice job.
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