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Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 8:09 pm
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stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
This is all true but the thought exercise was to imagine the particular songs on Binaural with Jack behind the kit.
Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 8:48 pm
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Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.
Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 8:49 pm
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stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
Well, Matt's songs wouldn't be there. And maybe the non-Matt songs would've just sounded less closeted, claustrophobic and tightly wound.
Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 8:52 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.
Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.
Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 9:13 pm
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theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
Well, Matt's songs wouldn't be there. And maybe the non-Matt songs would've just sounded less closeted, claustrophobic and tightly wound.
I was all of these things not too long ago.
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Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 9:59 pm
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BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.
Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.
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Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sat August 24, 2013 10:09 pm
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HardTI wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
Do jack irons fans think his drumming would have worked well on Binaural. it's such a closeted, claustrophobic, tightly wound album that I'm not sure his style would have fit.
I don't think hypothetical scenarios like this really work as songs aren't written in a vacuum, particularly in a band; they're written and arranged with those musicians in mind. Even if those musical ideas had still been worked on with Jack, what the end result would have been would very likely have been dramatically different. Ideas that were discarded as not working with Matt might have worked better with Jack, songs that we know may have moved in entirely different directions with a different drummer's feel.
I don't think it would have mattered in the slightest. They would've made another record with Jack that was tailored towards Jack's playing.
I really, really want to hear the version of Of The Girl recorded during the Yield sessions.
Would love to hear that more than anything else. Although I love the original.
I had no idea that even existed.... B======================D
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Post subject: Re: A safe place for discussion and appreciation of Jack Iro
Posted: Sun August 25, 2013 8:34 pm
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No Heads was a really good collection of tunes and I like Blue Manatee a lot too. I look forward to a new release whenever he has time, I have a feeling the next one is going to be incredible!
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