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lol, with the exception of maybe the first encore on night 3, the entire philly 09 run was hot garbage
Or did Beef just get in your head?
no the performances were legit bad
Apparently those Philly '09 shows were career-defining if you were there to keep track of scorecard girls, drink beer and gawk at Eddie. I was there to see a good concert, but left wondering WTF happened, and worried they might be their last-ever performances. Seemed like a rock-bottom moment to me.
If you put the time in context, it was right up the alley of what they were about. They were largely in a happier and more tossed off state of mind. Obama was recently elected President, they seemed grievance-free and could just go out and do what they do. Backspacer is an album that struggles with a coherent message because they had nothing to rage against, and the shows from that period reflect a looser band more inclined to smile and enjoy the party rather than confront the world with some direct focus. So the shows have this unfocused nature to them, particularly Eddie, who often went off the cuff a bit.
It can be cloying for someone looking for a Pearl Jam show circa 96, or even 03, but it had its own charms knowing the band was having as good a time and you were throwing out rarities, well rehearsed or not, and sort of just going with it. Philly 4 is the ultimate embodiment of this - so you either love or hate this show - though I would posit it is no less sloppy than say State College in 03. I still count it as a definitive performance from them.
I didn't realize the tour had started! I'll miss the longer sets. I don't listen to boots, and if I'm at a show I want it to go on as long as possible, and as was pointed out in this thread, sloppy moments rarely track when you're there. It's a boot problem.
But really, I haven't seen a show since the Lightning Bolt tour! As long as I get a good show I'll be incredibly happy
stip, did you know they have a new drummer for the tour?
Wait WHAT? A new drummer? Was it for all shows or just a couple? How did he do??
I didn't realize the tour had started! I'll miss the longer sets. I don't listen to boots, and if I'm at a show I want it to go on as long as possible, and as was pointed out in this thread, sloppy moments rarely track when you're there. It's a boot problem.
But really, I haven't seen a show since the Lightning Bolt tour! As long as I get a good show I'll be incredibly happy
stip, did you know they have a new drummer for the tour?
Wait WHAT? A new drummer? Was it for all shows or just a couple? How did he do??
Matt got COVID partway through the west coast leg of the tour.
At Oakland 1 and 2, Josh Klinghoffer and Richard Stuverud (Three Fish, Tres Mtns etc.) shared drumming duties, except for Yellow Ledbetter on night 1 which was played by a fan from the crowd.
At Fresno, Josh and Richard played again and were joined by original Pearl Jam drummer Dave Krusen who played a good chunk of the set.
Then Jeff got COVID and they cancelled the two remaining shows of the leg.
I fully expect Matt will be back for the upcoming Euro shows.
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I didn't realize the tour had started! I'll miss the longer sets. I don't listen to boots, and if I'm at a show I want it to go on as long as possible, and as was pointed out in this thread, sloppy moments rarely track when you're there. It's a boot problem.
But really, I haven't seen a show since the Lightning Bolt tour! As long as I get a good show I'll be incredibly happy
stip, did you know they have a new drummer for the tour?
Wait WHAT? A new drummer? Was it for all shows or just a couple? How did he do??
Matt got COVID partway through the west coast leg of the tour.
At Oakland 1 and 2, Josh Klinghoffer and Richard Stuverud (Three Fish, Tres Mtns etc.) shared drumming duties, except for Yellow Ledbetter on night 1 which was played by a fan from the crowd.
At Fresno, Josh and Richard played again and were joined by original Pearl Jam drummer Dave Krusen who played a good chunk of the set.
Then Jeff got COVID and they cancelled the two remaining shows of the leg.
I fully expect Matt will be back for the upcoming Euro shows.
I just saw this...crazy. I have to hear the Krusen set. I've long thought Matt Cameron's style leaves me cold compared to the old shows
Ya'll gonna be pining for the buttrocker encore sets soon enough.
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For their mainset of 17 songs (X) PJ always uses the following formula:
X = (10 songs from Ten/Vs/Vitalogy) + Given to Fly & DTE + 1 non-album track/lost dog/cover + 3 songs of your latest release + 1 song from No Code/Yield/Binaural/RA/ST/BS/LB *
*= add latest here when it has a followup Note: when setlists grow the formula remains intact. For instance..when they play 34 songs you can double each number.
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