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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
PostPosted: Thu March 10, 2022 5:03 pm 
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Bad Radio had a song called I’m Alive?

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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wease wrote:
Bad Radio had a song called I’m Alive?

Amazing chorus (sarcasm): “I’m Alive! How’s that.”


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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Excellent comp!

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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I'm very glad you were able to finish and release this, and the artwork is extraordinary...it immediately reminded me of this hahaha...

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
PostPosted: Thu March 10, 2022 11:12 pm 
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
I'm very glad you were able to finish and release this, and the artwork is extraordinary...it immediately reminded me of this hahaha...


Thanks man! I tried to tread that fine line between garish and stylish :)


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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wease wrote:
Bad Radio had a song called I’m Alive?

Makes sense if you think about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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spike wrote:
wease wrote:
Bad Radio had a song called I’m Alive?

Makes sense if you think about it.

How’s that.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
PostPosted: Sat March 12, 2022 10:07 pm 
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Thanks for this compilation, I had not listened to these songs for years !

By rediscovering them, I have noted that Better Man (track #16) sounded off pitch, and by checking with my guitar, it is not in regular pitch A440.
Some of the sources were apparently impacted by tapes being copied at incorrect speed back in the day (several early PJ bootlegs have a similar issue).

I have reviewed all tracks by playing along as other songs have a similar issue, and tried to adjust speeds in Audacity so the pitch is correct.
Here are the values I applied when I found out the pitch was incorrect. The values can be off by around +/- 0.5%, I have tried to find what sounds correct to my ears.

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BAD RADIO - WHAT THE FUNK CASSETTE 89
07 - Believe You Me -> -2.5%
08 - I'm Alive -> -2.5%

The 2 other versions of Believe You Me are correct (the main chords of the verse are G and C). I'm Alive is a blues-based song in A.

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BAD RADIO - TOWER RECORDS CASSETTE 89
10 - Better Man (Live) -> -1.5%

The pitch is a bit too sharp, a small speed decrease corrects it.

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SOLO DEMO 88-89
13 - Homeless (Acoustic) -> +4.25%
14 - Just A Book -> +4.25%
15 - Sick O' Pussies -> +4.25%
16 - Better Man -> +4.25%

The pitch was quite impacted here, with the songs sounding more than a semitone too flat.
It is quite striking when listening to this version of Better Man, compared to the well-known PJ ones.
Homeless is off-key compared to the version on track #5.
For Sick O' Pussies, the bass plays some slapped E and A notes at the end, I have used it as reference.
And Just a Book confirmed that the same correction can be applied across the 4 tracks (verse chords F#m D, chorus with a bass progression starting from an open E string).

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INDIAN STYLE DEMO
17 - Smooth Talkin' -> +2.5%
18 - Time -> +2.5%
19 - Daddy Could Swear, I Declare (Gladys Knight cover) -> -2.5%

The 2 Indian Style original songs are tricky, as we have no other reference to confirm their actual pitch. Based on the bass and guitar parts (and the use of riffs based on open strings for Smooth Talkin'), the pitch seems to be a bit flat, so a bit of speed increase is needed.
The original Daddy Could Swear song starts with a riff based on a E minor chord, so the correction (slow down) sets the cover to the correct pitch.

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SOLO DEMO 88-89
20 - What A Wonderful World (Sam Cooke cover) -> +3.5%
21 - Something Inside So Strong (Labi Siffre cover) -> +3.5%

For the two last covers, I have sped up Something Inside So Strong to match the original key.
By applying the same speed correction on What a Wonderful World, it appears that Vedder had adapted the original chords (verse B G#m E F#) for his register 3 steps below (chords F Dm Bb C).
Fun fact: take the same chords 1 step higher (G Em C D) and you have Last Kiss.

I hope it helps. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
PostPosted: Sat March 12, 2022 11:33 pm 
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XWayne wrote:
By rediscovering them, I have noted that Better Man (track #16) sounded off pitch, and by checking with my guitar, it is not in regular pitch A440.
Some of the sources were apparently impacted by tapes being copied at incorrect speed back in the day (several early PJ bootlegs have a similar issue).


Unfortunately, most audio people (even professionals) have no idea how to properly master an old cassette. The pitch and channel alignment are supposed to be the very first thing you check, before fixing the EQ and setting the noise reduction to "stun". But more often than not, they don't even bother with it. And so it goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
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Hey all, the audio has been updated thanks to XWayne (pitch) and Wendy Carlos's Twin (alignment) so please download the updated files.

The artwork has also been updated to correct the title of 'Wonderful World'.

DOWNLOAD NOW


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years)
PostPosted: Wed March 16, 2022 8:30 am 
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ridleybradout wrote:
Hey all, the audio has been updated thanks to XWayne (pitch) and Wendy Carlos's Twin (alignment) so please download the updated files.

The artwork has also been updated to correct the title of 'Wonderful World'.

DOWNLOAD NOW


Great work guys! I've updated the header!


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
PostPosted: Wed March 16, 2022 7:55 pm 
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Should send this to Eddie somehow.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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¨ahh uhh those guys...i mean....the band has a internet forum...and a...they had these proyects...and they are cool pretty cool....and they did one with songs i did back in the day....and i listen to it and it was like...riding that wave again...so....this one is for them¨

And Pj plays Red Mosquito.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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I've always loved Homeless. Would love to hear PJ record it sometime.

I see Eddie did a solo performance in 93'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FaWaCVh-Xg

Which song in this compilation did Eddie tag in a PJ show in recent years?

Thanks for the great compilation.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
PostPosted: Tue April 05, 2022 6:06 pm 
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michaeldarren79 wrote:
Which song in this compilation did Eddie tag in a PJ show in recent years?

"Believe You Me"


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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Crossroads and Homeless were pretty good (it's been years). Believe you Me and Just a Book (distant ancestor of Sad) weren't too bad either.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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stip wrote:
Crossroads and Homeless were pretty good (it's been years). Believe you Me and Just a Book (distant ancestor of Sad) weren't too bad either.


Yeah, those are the four tracks that have potential. I would still enjoy a re-recorded EP for just those 4 tracks. Record them with the Earthlings and all should be good!


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Vedder - Dreams in Color (the San Diego Years) UPD
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I can't find "Street Funky Man" in this compilation

Previous this excellent compilation I have 2 different boots "Eds demos", "One Step Back" and "Bad Radio SDP Demos" with some songs I have up to 3 versions to compare but there isn't exact between their

Thanks a lot for the work, it sound amazing and have a new color, very impressive


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sico_pata wrote:
I can't find "Street Funky Man" in this compilation

Previous this excellent compilation I have 2 different boots "Eds demos", "One Step Back" and "Bad Radio SDP Demos" with some songs I have up to 3 versions to compare but there isn't exact between their

Thanks a lot for the work, it sound amazing and have a new color, very impressive


Thanks! Those two boots you mention are the most spread for these songs. However not all tracks there have great quality. It still was the only source for that street fighting man cover I could find, therefore it wasn't included (also did fit ;) ). For most other song Ive selected better sources as a starting point.


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