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I don't think Ed views himself as a have. Maybe someone in his inner circle should have talked to him about it. He has never seemed very self aware. I like the studio take of this song.
The Haves ruined my entire perception of Ed… past, present, and future… and I’ll probably never listen to Pearl Jam again bc of it
The $237 tickets had much more to do with it than an out of touch clunker. Bad songs happen, but even understanding that people perspectives change over years and decades, there should always be a little of that 15-30 year old Ed inside telling him that this is wrong when they nearly buried their long term career by digging in their heels about ticket prices and fees just when they were cementing themselves.
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
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Late to the hypothetical timeline-to-quality-of-album conversation, but I’m firmly in the camp of I’d rather wait an entire decade or more if it meant PJ would put out a mind blowing album that’s equivalent to their best work, even if it’s their last album ever, rather get a Lightning Bolt every 2 years. I’ll happily settle for a Gigaton every 3-4 years. A gigaton quality album is more creativity and quality than we can reasonably expect from this band at this point. I honestly think that it’s possible for PJ to create something even better than Gigaton if they could somehow get Eddie to yield the creative process to the rest of the group and not write any songs for it. Fingers crossed he gets it out of his system with Earthling.
The Haves is perfect, pure, fully-formed dog shit.
It's not encouraging that she singles out "Brother the Cloud" as the "clear highlight," but the descriptions of some of the other songs at least have me curious if not optimistic.
Jorge wrote:
Eddie Vedder hilariously wrote:
"Are we clear? Cleared for liftoff? Are we affirmative? No negatory!"
ooof "Wonder plays a charismatic harmonica line on “Try,” but the song is so upbeat that the contribution sounds more like a cartoonish kazoo than a soulful blues harp."
Into this: This corniness tends to let up when Vedder retreats to his heavier roots. “Rose of Jericho” pogos with a zig-zag riff and an off-kilter vocal meter, while hand claps and dinging piano accentuate the guitar crunch of “Power of Right.” Better still is “Good and Evil,” a quick-spitted cast-off of class privilege.
Where the heavily processed guitar in the “Power of Right” at times feels canned, “Good and Evil” soars with authentic ferocity. “Get some sleep/ I hope you dream your own death tonight,” Vedder snarls, describing a “safari scene” of hunters (the Trump sons?) who shoot big game for fun. “I wake up with forgiveness every day in my heart/ But for you I have not got any, dear.”
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daft twat wrote:
Honest question: is The Haves a legitimately terrible song OR is it knowing the composer is a Have that makes it hard to swallow?
If I listen to it like Daughter and consider the pov is not rich rockstar Eddie Vedder, I don’t hate it. This is setting up to be a forgettable album and yet one I will enjoy on the patio on a summer’s eve.
Daughter was believable because we know Ed has experienced doubt over his parentage and also abuse; but if he's ever experienced poverty or "having not", he's a million miles away from it now, so The Haves is different
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Ms Harmless wrote:
daft twat wrote:
Honest question: is The Haves a legitimately terrible song OR is it knowing the composer is a Have that makes it hard to swallow?
If I listen to it like Daughter and consider the pov is not rich rockstar Eddie Vedder, I don’t hate it. This is setting up to be a forgettable album and yet one I will enjoy on the patio on a summer’s eve.
Daughter was believable because we know Ed has experienced doubt over his parentage and also abuse; but if he's ever experienced poverty or "having not", he's a million miles away from it now, so The Haves is different
There is nothing that stops a rich person from taking poverty seriously, but it needs to be done delicately, and not in the first person.
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