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tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Tue June 27, 2023 10:11 pm

Kevin Davis wrote:

"No logical precedent" was probably too strong of a phrase -- I can definitely see likenesses between the pairs of songs you listed, though I would stop short of saying they sound like each other. I think all of them have prevailing aesthetic and/or musical and/or emotional qualities that make them more different than similar, but I can absolutely see what you're saying.

yeah i don't mean to be too pedantic here. But apart from DOTC, it's tough to identify anything from ST onward that I'd recognize as uncharted territory.

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm **Posts:** 36502

I loved this one when it came out, then kinda forgot about it after the amazingly good 2006 tour. But it came back very strong in 2020, and now its one of my favorites from them, not only the album but the whole phase, SNL, the magazine covers, festivals...felt they were in a very good and strong moment.

Life Waster, WWC, Comatose, Severed Hand, Parachutes, Unemployable, Big Wave, Army Reserve and Inside Job remain as favorites from their catalogue.

Lounge Lizard · **Joined:** Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am **Posts:** 1843

I bought Avocado and 10 000 Days on the same day.
Guess which record gets tons of replays from me to this day?

So... there's that.

Huell · **Joined:** Mon September 16, 2013 10:51 am **Posts:** 152

Lounge Lizard wrote:

I bought Avocado and 10 000 Days on the same day.
Guess which record gets tons of replays from me to this day?

So... there's that.

Which one? Avocado and you love it? Or 10,000 days and you love that?

I always liked 10,000 Days, it was my first Tool release at the time but I had a new appreciation for it after Fear Inoculum came out. Wish they just cut Vigniti Tres from it too, pointless dead space for a gimmick

warehouse · **Joined:** Sat January 05, 2013 3:34 pm **Posts:** 4385

both great albums and deserve regular spins

Lounge Lizard · **Joined:** Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am **Posts:** 1843

Huell wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

I bought Avocado and 10 000 Days on the same day.
Guess which record gets tons of replays from me to this day?

So... there's that.

Which one? Avocado and you love it? Or 10,000 days and you love that?

10 000 Days, of course.

igotworms · **Joined:** Wed September 11, 2013 3:36 pm **Posts:** 487

I do wonder what the reception to S/T would have been if they'd followed through with it being a concept album / rock opera as originally planned. You can pretty much pick through the songs and work out the narrative and running order. I think Ed said that the release of American Idiot torpedoed the idea.

Monkey_Driven · **Posted:** Wed June 28, 2023 1:53 pm

igotworms wrote:

I do wonder what the reception to S/T would have been if they'd followed through with it being a concept album / rock opera as originally planned. You can pretty much pick through the songs and work out the narrative and running order. I think Ed said that the release of American Idiot torpedoed the idea.

I think it would be worse.

JuanHamm · **Joined:** Wed May 30, 2018 6:10 pm **Posts:** 6950

I can't even begin to imagine how bad a Pearl Jam Rock opera would be.

dad · **Joined:** Fri June 24, 2016 2:49 pm **Posts:** 16708

JuanHamm wrote:

I can't even begin to imagine how bad a Pearl Jam Rock opera would be.

wease · **Posted:** Wed June 28, 2023 3:19 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:

KD i like the spirit of where your head's at, but:

Army Reserve sounds like You Are

I guess kinda but You Are doesn’t change time signatures like Reserve does.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Parachutes sounds like All Those Yesterdays

Just with the picked acoustic riff, I suppose. I had never even thought about it before you mentioned it.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Come Back taps into the R&B throwback vibes of Last Kiss and Leaving Here

And fails miserably.

liebzz · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm **Posts:** 7707

Come Back reimagined as a Gov’t Mule song is actually quite nice:

https://open.spotify.com/track/1mJlwizX ... KQ60gOBjBg

igotworms · **Joined:** Wed September 11, 2013 3:36 pm **Posts:** 487

I was not aware of that cover. Reasonable.

wease · **Posted:** Wed June 28, 2023 7:56 pm

Me either. Better than the original.

liebzz · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm **Posts:** 7707

wease wrote:

Me either. Better than the original.

I was there, man! (Actually I was).

zeb · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 10:43 am **Posts:** 5687

dad wrote:

JuanHamm wrote:

I can't even begin to imagine how bad a Pearl Jam Rock opera would be.

warehouse · **Joined:** Sat January 05, 2013 3:34 pm **Posts:** 4385

igotworms wrote:

I do wonder what the reception to S/T would have been if they'd followed through with it being a concept album / rock opera as originally planned. You can pretty much pick through the songs and work out the narrative and running order. I think Ed said that the release of American Idiot torpedoed the idea.

he did this with the early albums, as well. ten, vs and vitalogy are all borderline concept albums w/ larger narratives.

edit: i also don't think the rock opera thing was planned, as much as it was EV just revisiting the way he tracked albums. i think 'cold confession' was intended to end the album, but 'inside job' is super important to mccready and kinda ends the story the same way.

zeb · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 10:43 am **Posts:** 5687

Yeah but is the concept just what's mainly bugging Eddie at the time?

Ten - Family, abandonment, etc
Vs - Dealing with an incredible amount of fame
Vitalogy - Same as Vs but way more plus a little social commentary

warehouse · **Joined:** Sat January 05, 2013 3:34 pm **Posts:** 4385

i think 'vitalogy' is probably the most autobiographical, but it's not just the themes on the album, its the sequence.

"don't go on me"
"I'd rather be with an animal"

one song is a response to the song before it.

liebzz · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm **Posts:** 7707

warehouse wrote:

i think 'vitalogy' is probably the most autobiographical, but it's not just the themes on the album, its the sequence.

"don't go on me"
"I'd rather be with an animal"

one song is a response to the song before it.

Did you mean Vs.?

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