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When Howard tried to press him on Cornell and Ed responded " it got away from me there" Stern's follow up was just amazing. He roped Ed in and It then almost became a therapy session until he said, let's switch to happier things. Some people just aren't good with death, I can relate to that. This just my assumption, but it doesn't appear Ed and Chris didn't talked much after PJ 20 or after Soundgarden reunited. I just wonder if they had a falling out or just drifted away.
I didn't get that impression. We fans are invested in this romantic notion of these guys been super tight best friends/brothers, when in reality I doubt it was like that. They were friends but - just like most adult friendships - kids, adulting etc get in the way.
Now if you're talking about Ed and Vicky Cornell falling out, you may be on to something...
It seems more like it went the path that they just got busy, had kids, familes etc. But Ed was rather cagey when stern brought up vicky's daugther. Redditors for years have spread rumors that vicky was very controlling and was not a fan of Ed's wife and many others in Seattle, but who really knows.
Ed's silence on certain subjects in this interview and the few others he's done recently speaks volumes. Pretty clear that and his family are VERY close with Cornell's first daughter (and wife) but not with Vicky and her kids. Like many have said i doubt there was any real falling out between Ed and Chris more likely busy adult lives getting in the way and obviously some issues with Chris' second wife.
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SO ... am I the only one who was floored by the story of Elderly Woman? I always thought it was about EV encountering an older woman he lost touch with. I didn't realize it was written from the perspective *of* the Elderly Woman. Did he ever talk about this in concert? Am I the only one. Mind was kinda blown.
W/ the CC thing ... I think it was a genuine friendship, but him bringing up his brother is proof positive that we don't know shit about what's going on in their day to day lives. We attribute all of these lyrics to people we think they are about ... his brother's death is a huge huge deal. I looked at their tour history in 2015 and that year is pretty empty and I don't remember the touring situation but I'm thinking that is why.
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Strat wrote:
lowlight79 wrote:
When Howard tried to press him on Cornell and Ed responded " it got away from me there" Stern's follow up was just amazing. He roped Ed in and It then almost became a therapy session until he said, let's switch to happier things. Some people just aren't good with death, I can relate to that. This just my assumption, but it doesn't appear Ed and Chris didn't talked much after PJ 20 or after Soundgarden reunited. I just wonder if they had a falling out or just drifted away.
I didnt get the feeling it was a falling out. Im sure it was just a "We have kids, careers, we're older" and didnt hang out as much.
And living in different towns ... Chris moved away from Seattle during the last many years of his life. Add in being touring musicians it sure would be hard to keep up. I have close buddies in town that I only get to see a few times a year at best. Also, the Susan Silver-Chris breakup was super ugly. I'm guessing they are on the SS side of the equation. Seattle loyalty.
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Tuolumne wrote:
Strat wrote:
lowlight79 wrote:
When Howard tried to press him on Cornell and Ed responded " it got away from me there" Stern's follow up was just amazing. He roped Ed in and It then almost became a therapy session until he said, let's switch to happier things. Some people just aren't good with death, I can relate to that. This just my assumption, but it doesn't appear Ed and Chris didn't talked much after PJ 20 or after Soundgarden reunited. I just wonder if they had a falling out or just drifted away.
I didnt get the feeling it was a falling out. Im sure it was just a "We have kids, careers, we're older" and didnt hang out as much.
And living in different towns ... Chris moved away from Seattle during the last many years of his life. Add in being touring musicians it sure would be hard to keep up. I have close buddies in town that I only get to see a few times a year at best. Also, the Susan Silver-Chris breakup was super ugly. I'm guessing they are on the SS side of the equation. Seattle loyalty.
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Tuolumne wrote:
SO ... am I the only one who was floored by the story of Elderly Woman? I always thought it was about EV encountering an older woman he lost touch with. I didn't realize it was written from the perspective *of* the Elderly Woman. Did he ever talk about this in concert? Am I the only one. Mind was kinda blown.
I always thought the lyrics make it pretty clear that it's about the singer (the elderly woman) staying behind in a small town and someone who left the town returning with lines like: "I changed by not changing at all Small town predicts my fate" and "My god, its been so long, never dreamed you'd return"
yeah, i always knew it but i also heard and read about the song. It was a pretty discussed song by Ed back in the day. Its one of PJ´s best for sure, and the studio version is beautiful.
bout Ed and Chris, im sure they didnt have a fallout, but after Cornell separated from Silver, it took him years to come back to Seattle. I think they saw him after a long time in Santa Barbara 03 and then in 09. And thats when SG´s return was being discussed. PJ was super important for that too, having the band at some shows to talk and gain trust, and giving them their space and managment.
Not to go off on a tangent, but it makes me LOL that Stern is still ragging on The Monkees. He still believes the urban legend that none of them could play an instrument. My buddy called him up on the air many times to yell at him about this, but he still continues to say it. He's such a white-bread rocker douche.
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