Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:49 pm
Strat wrote:yellow moon comparison to Bleeding Muddy water....
yes, please.
that was the thing I popped the most for. Which is good because i was pissed that l-bolt has a fade.
I like what I am reading here.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:50 pm
Jaeti wrote:harmless wrote:Blenheim Augustine wrote:harmless wrote:Blenheim Augustine wrote:harmless wrote:wilkins wrote:BO'B can go fuck himself with SBM; seriously, why do the guys bend so much to him and for something that was already released.
No matter what the song sounds like, this is a silly argument. 1) We have no idea which PJ songs are in fact older than the albums they're on, and some songs definitely are, like Betterman, 2) We have no idea which Uke Songs were just sketches for PJ songs, and 3) We have no idea whether it was adapted from Uke to PJ, or the other way round.
But Betterman wasn't released on an album before it was on Vitalogy. Neither was Can't Keep. What other songs were on studio albums before appearing on a Pearl Jam album?
It's a fair point. But the song wasn't on a Pearl Jam album. Personally I'm happy that Pearl Jam solo songs are passed from solo project to PJ, and then back again, as long as these guys are involved and as long as the songs are good. And this song is great, IMHO. And it sounds like I might dig the treatment.
I don't have a problem with that principle. I do have a problem with BOB sticking his beak into the song selection (and writing) process so these guys can be more 'relevant'.
Yeah, I can see that. If Brendan had begged me to put a song on an album I'd have said Fuck Right Off. PJ were happy about it, I'm presuming. Maybe there were other compromises, like the some of the darkness in prior songs. Maybe Brendan wanted a couple of light moments so there was some compromise.
He works for them, right? They don't have to compromise on anything.
They don't have to, no. But if they want to? There's nothing you or I can do about it. There's years of professional friendship between them. If they make awful decisions, it's at least partly PJ's fault for being pushovers. Brendan O'Brien isn't the only producer out there like this. My band was unhappy with its second demo because the producer pushed for a lighter, more 'commercial' feel. We fought him a bit, and compromised, but basically producers can be divas, especially if they're failed musicians. It's that old case of, PJ would rather maintain relationships now than really challenge them.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:50 pm
broken iris wrote:Maybe it was the commercial success of Just Breathe that drove the inclusion of FD and SBM and not vast BO'B conspiracy.
Well I'm betting they put the success of just breathe down to listening to B'oB in the first place, hence......
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:51 pm
southp wrote:Is the 1st review in this thread somewhere? I guess I only saw the 2nd one.
page 362
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:52 pm
Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Haha, so sadly fucking true.
Why would that be a problem? It's a really nice tune.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:53 pm
HardTI wrote:Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Haha, so sadly fucking true.
Why would that be a problem? It's a really nice tune.
Could be worse. could be Future Days.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:53 pm
Which song has the violin? Is it safe to assume it's SBM?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:53 pm
I suppose, If it is a good band version it will be worth it since I never listen to the uke version.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:53 pm
this was just said on the last page, but lest we forget, BoB had to beg to include betterman and vitalogy, and he can probably ruin 2-3 albums in their entirety and still come out in the black for that one.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:56 pm
VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:57 pm
liebzz wrote:BOB did insist on Better Man making Vitalogy...take that for what it's worth.
Is that right? Well.... that's interesting.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:57 pm
At least Sleeping By Myself probably won't be "funny" if Brendan fought for it so much.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:57 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
I will enjoy that encore.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:57 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
Way to kill my PJ tour boner.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:58 pm
stip wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
I will enjoy that encore.
Me too.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:58 pm
stip wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
I will enjoy that encore.
boooo
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:58 pm
What I find interesting is that the songs the first reviewer was most excited about are the ones that Franz and Cris seemed to be much less interested in and vice versa (see his comments on Sirens).
That could be very good news for me. I tend to lean towards the "I pretty much like everything PJ has done" side of the fence. So as long as their wasn't a ton of agreement on "this one song sucks for sure!" then that leaves a pretty good chance that I might like everything on this record.
That could be very good news for me. I tend to lean towards the "I pretty much like everything PJ has done" side of the fence. So as long as their wasn't a ton of agreement on "this one song sucks for sure!" then that leaves a pretty good chance that I might like everything on this record.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:59 pm
stip wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Imagine all the Just Breathe > The End > Sleeping By Myself encores
I will enjoy that encore.
ill enjoy it one time. But i can see him killing all the setlist with that...him alone with an acoustic, all breathy, singing this stuff.
Brendan, those songs belong in a small theatre aka EDDIE SOLO TOUR.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 8:59 pm
Mike wrote:At least Sleeping By Myself probably won't be "funny" if Brendan fought for it so much.
Oh I don't know. SoS is pretty funny in a couple of parts...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Tue September 03, 2013 9:00 pm
HardTI wrote:Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:the worst part?
Ed will play Sleeping By Myself with a fucking uke in all of the PJ shows. ALL.
Haha, so sadly fucking true.
Why would that be a problem? It's a really nice tune.
I'm expecting to like the full-band version more, and I'll be at a PJ show, and then suddenly the Ed song they made a PJ song will revert to being an Ed song and lack all of the things I liked most about it. Maybe.