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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
2%
4 stars
3
6%
3 stars
20
38%
2 stars
19
37%
1 star
9
17%
 
Total votes : 52

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed November 15, 2017 1:59 am

Mind Your Manners, My Father's Son, Pendulum and Yellow Moon are the ones that stuck with me, and I enjoy Lightning Bolt as well, though maybe not at their level.
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Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed November 15, 2017 2:00 am

PHATJ wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:Getaway is a good song hidden in a terrible mix.
Mind Your Manners is ok
My Fathers's Son could be good with a better delivery from Ed and a less wordy lyrics
Sirens is ok, deserved a better delivery too.
Lightning Bolt is alright.
Infalible has an awesome vers, a cool bridge, an awesome instrumental with a terrible chorus
Pendulum is GOOD.
Swalloed Whole is awful.
Let The Records Play is fun, and I love the main riff and the instrumental.
Sleeping By Myself is awful.
Yellow moon is GREAT
Future Days is terrible.

Still my least favorite album, the closer I have to be a bad album.

I’m on board with almost all of this. :thumbsup:



more like....on bored! amirite?!

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed November 15, 2017 2:01 am

I just dont crave to listen to this album. I love Mind Your Manners, sleeping by myself, Yellow Moon, my fathers son, and infallible.

I still dont seek those songs out.

Theyre just kind of there and im not sure why. Is it the production? Is it because they just aren't that good? Is it because they have done similar songs better before?

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed November 15, 2017 3:35 am

Strat wrote:I just dont crave to listen to this album.

me too.

and i've listened to backspacer a few times in the past year.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed November 15, 2017 3:37 am

i think it's worth noting that the last two album artworks are cartoon-themed, which is what PJ appears to have become

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu November 16, 2017 10:42 pm

Maybe Burt should do the artwork for the next one.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu November 16, 2017 11:18 pm

Maybe they should just quit.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu November 16, 2017 11:28 pm

NEVER STOP

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu November 16, 2017 11:35 pm

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Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Fri November 17, 2017 2:14 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:Maybe Burt should do the artwork for the next one.

If he wont, I will.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Sun November 19, 2017 4:02 am

KurtLeon wrote:Getaway is a good song hidden in a terrible mix. Agreed
Mind Your Manners is ok. Better than ok, it's pretty good.
My Fathers's Son could be good with a better delivery from Ed and a less wordy lyrics. Disagree, MFS can't get much better, lyrics are fine and Ed's delivery is great.
Sirens is ok, deserved a better delivery too. Agreed, though the delivery's not bad.
Lightning Bolt is alright. Agreed, but could be great with a better mix/production.
Infalible has an awesome vers, a cool bridge, an awesome instrumental with a terrible chorus Yea, pretty much, though I wouldn't call it a terrible chorus, just not as good as the rest of the song.
Pendulum is GOOD. Ehh, the 2nd half of the song is good.
Swalloed Whole is awful. Ed bothers me on this one, I wouldn't say awful though. Issues with delivery should be on this song, not MFS or Sirens.
Let The Records Play is fun, and I love the main riff and the instrumental. Pretty good bridge on this one, could've been a great song.
Sleeping By Myself is awful. Awful?? No, it's not bad.
Yellow moon is GREAT Well, not great, but pretty good.
Future Days is terrible. Take out the piano and it's not so terrible. Thought it was terrible upon first listens, but I've warmed up to it some.

Still my least favorite album, the closer I have to be a bad album. I'm not sure, I go back and forth between LB and BS as their worst.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Sun November 19, 2017 11:06 am

I'm Listening to lightning bolt for the first time since i got the vinyl in 2014 and realized it sounded worse/as bad than the mp3 and gave up on the album completely. The album competes with backspacer for the worst pearl jam album.

Its even more processed sounding than backspacer, but the bass has more room to shine, as everything else sounds thinner. I cant decide which album is worse, the performances vary from song to song, but i would probably prefer to listen to the backspacer album in full. I think Lightning bolt has some better ideas and some tracks are better.
The best songs are:

Getaway
Fathers Son
Pendulum is good but by this point in the album its too late.
Swallowed Whole (Sounds soo bad compared to into the wild, couldve been great)

If pearl jam want to make a great album again, they have to start from scratch, everything sounds so comfortable and overproducing the tracks while trying to maintain a ragged sound is just not working.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed October 16, 2019 12:45 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Wed October 16, 2019 3:20 pm

I haven't listen to this record in a while, but looking back, the only tracks now that appeal to me are

Getaway
Mind You Manners
Swallowed Whole
Pendulum
Yellow Moon and Future Days.

The last two, well, future days I ended up like a year or two later when Ed played it at a festival with a electric guitar and it sounded great. Yellow Moon, I just wasn't a fan of, but I find myself listening to it more now than I did when the record came out.

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:00 pm

Bump for mikejasond as he LAL

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Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:02 pm

I've been banished to this thread :(

What if I wanted to have 12 simultaneous conversations?!?!!?! :cry:

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:03 pm

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Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:04 pm

Lightning Bolt is fun on the album but its by far the best contribution of this album to their live show and the only one that I hope never goes away. It works even in the encores. Its really fun and McCready goes wild. It's a highlight of many of their modern shows.

Overall My Father's Son -> Sirens -> Lightning Bolt is a nice run after an awful start.

I enjoy it on the album too but it undoubtedly shines live

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:06 pm

(But seriously why didn't they let McCready have a crazy solo on the album version. So weird)

Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...

Thu January 16, 2020 9:06 pm

mikejasond wrote:Lightning Bolt is fun on the album but its by far the best contribution of this album to their live show and the only one that I hope never goes away. It works even in the encores. Its really fun and McCready goes wild. It's a highlight of many of their modern shows.

Overall My Father's Son -> Sirens -> Lightning Bolt is a nice run after an awful start.

I enjoy it on the album too but it undoubtedly shines live

I love the little post first chorus solo that mccready does.

I think Lighting BOlt, the track, is actually really great. It takes a few twists and turns that i find really interesting as far as song structure goes.
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