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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
PostPosted: Tue September 15, 2020 10:31 pm 
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tragabigzanda wrote:
At first glance, seems like new tracks are rehearsals and/or rough mixes of Deep, Oceans, Release, Alone, Rats, Leash, and Indifference.

There's also a couple tracks with a date claiming to be from their first rehearsal with Dave on 8/5/91. This includes another practice recording of Instrumental #1, with the whole band playing while Ed tries some vocal ideas; and then a version of Wash, with a brief snippet of Jeremy at the end.

I wish that Leash demo is the same of this:

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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great thread


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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It’s funny, I am at a point where I don’t have that much of an interest in these sorts of things. I would love to hear stuff that they did in other periods, but the genesis of this band and everything that’s come out, been leaked,etc. this is just not the holy grail for me anymore. I’d love to hear them jamming around the ‘95-‘00 period, and I would like to hear what, if anything, if leftover from Gigaton...but that period in and around the release of Ten and Vs. we have heard quite a lot from. I doubt you’d find anything earth shattering. Their Kashmir isn’t hidden in there.


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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liebzz wrote:
It’s funny, I am at a point where I don’t have that much of an interest in these sorts of things. I would love to hear stuff that they did in other periods, but the genesis of this band and everything that’s come out, been leaked,etc. this is just not the holy grail for me anymore. I’d love to hear them jamming around the ‘95-‘00 period, and I would like to hear what, if anything, if leftover from Gigaton...but that period in and around the release of Ten and Vs. we have heard quite a lot from. I doubt you’d find anything earth shattering. Their Kashmir isn’t hidden in there.

The tapes supposedly include a number of instrumental jams from the Vitalogy session that I am dying to hear. But so far I’ve got no indication that Mr. Cockage has circulated them yet.


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I just love to hear this stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Appreciate those stepping forward and sharing what they have

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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The shameless ass-kissing for a pile of scattered lossy tracks is sad but typical.

No wonder this guy doesn't want to share this stuff properly.


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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tragabigzanda wrote:
1993-02-25 03 Jam
Stone and Dave seem to be fairly locked in; Jeff seems to be struggling to vibe with what’s going on. Not terribly interesting, this one. Just a lot of aimless guitar riffing and funk-rock drumming by Dave. Dave in particular goes off the rails towards the end, like he’s this close to just taking a drum solo. Interesting to think about Jeff’s past comments about struggling to connect with Dave musically. Based on the studio output, I’d always been kind of skeptical of that, because it seemed like they vibed really well. But hearing something like this, and now I’m thinking that maybe Jeff had to put in more effort than he felt was reasonable to create some cohesive rhythm parts with Dave.


maybe it wasn't Jeff having to make an effort insomuch as it was that Jeff wasn't a strong improviser. at least at that point in his career, or not the kind that could hang with Dave's turbo funk. i feel like Jeff has gotten better over time. maybe i am imagining that. But early pearl jam doesn't scream 'we have a good a bassist'. I don't get the sense Jeff was some dynamo behind the scenes in early PJ and then when it came to album cutting time he got stuck with pedestrian 'basslines' ... half the time its just him playing a root chord note on those early albums. Dave A was probably better at his craft at that point and Jeff didn't have the goods to roll with it

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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1993-02-25 06 Cready Stomp
This isn’t exactly Cready Stomp. It’s similar in tone, key, and tempo, but it’s not really the same riff. This is a bit darker and more bass-driven. They spend ten minutes loosely exploring the idea, and while it never turns into the track we heard on the Vs. reissue, they’re similar enough that I wouldn’t be surprised if this were the genesis for that track.


It's a damn shame they're never develop this tune into something more completed. And i like this one better then the released version. A real highlight from the bunch.


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Wow, this ‘93 rehearsal tape is great!

Stone, Jeff and Dave were a really great musical engine room.


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Where is everyone hearing these?

I feel like I've missed a link to a repository or who the user to pm is.

Can someone point me in the right direction please?


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Wow, this ‘93 rehearsal tape is great!

Stone, Jeff and Dave were a really great musical engine room.


link? or is one of the jams of that Dave A leak?

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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rimb wrote:
Where is everyone hearing these?

I feel like I've missed a link to a repository or who the user to pm is.

Can someone point me in the right direction please?


Can someone guide also me to the same direction? Thanks!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Wow, this ‘93 rehearsal tape is great!

Stone, Jeff and Dave were a really great musical engine room.


When do the rest of us get to hear these?


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Where can I hear this ? Interesting stuff !

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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Thanks everyone who's reached out for tips and questions. My apologies for not being as quick to respond as I'd like to be.

This evening I sorted through the first trove of stuff (everything already listed in the OP). I identified duplicates where I had them, swapped out a few better quality files for what were previously available as mp3s, and organized everything into folders indicating the original cassette tape from which they originated. If you've already got the first batch of stuff, now it's just a lot more organized and you know where to find it.

Next up is sorting through the second trove of stuff I've got. After that, I'll follow up with those who've not heard from me yet. I just hate the idea of stuff getting out there mislabeled, and/or in inferior quality when I may have a better copy on hand.

Please be patient and I'll get back to y'all ASAP. Thanks.


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Thank YOU! :heartbeat:


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 Post subject: Re: New leak: Demo 1 9/91
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Can’t wait for it! Thank you :lol:


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