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And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment
Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.
And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment
Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.
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I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best
I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best
Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.
I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best
Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.
I just wanted to announce that I've consolidated my "Favourite" and "Best" lists, and I now officially consider Leatherman one of the Best Pearl Jam Songs.
I just wanted to announce that I've consolidated my "Favourite" and "Best" lists, and I now officially consider Leatherman one of the Best Pearl Jam Songs.
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm Posts: 39818
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Tj wrote:
stip wrote:
I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best
Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.
I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best
Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.
Yes!!! Backspacer came out shortly after my first child was born and my dad was battling cancer. The End literally brought me to tears.
To this day the song still elicits a strong emotional response in me, even though my son is now an 11 year old pain in the ass and my dad is still ticking and healthier than ever!
Joined: Tue January 29, 2013 11:24 pm Posts: 107 Location: London, UK
THE best Pearl Jam song - ie, best writing, of cultural significance, best example of "peak" Pearl Jam is CORDUROY. It's the song I'd play to someone to get them into PJ, with GIVEN TO FLY as a backup...
Alive Why Go Animal Rats Last Exit Not For You Hail Hail In My Tree Off He Goes I Got Shit Brain of J In Hiding All Those Yesterdays Grievance Sleight of Hand Can't Keep Save You All Night Black, Red, Yellow Man of the Hour WWS Amongst the Waves Mind Your Manners Lightning Bolt Who Ever Said Comes Then Goes
Best:
Even Flow Alive Black Animal Daughter Corduroy Better Man Immortality In My Tree Present Tense Given to Fly Do the Evolution In Hiding Nothing as it Seems Love Boat Captain I Am Mine Man of the Hour Severed Hand Unemployable Dance of the Clairvoyants Quick Escape Seven O'Clock
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:02 am Posts: 15145 Location: Gigatown
guitar_davey wrote:
Hot take...
Favourites:
Alive Why Go Animal Rats Last Exit Not For You Hail Hail In My Tree Off He Goes I Got Shit Brain of J In Hiding All Those Yesterdays Grievance Sleight of Hand Can't Keep Save You All Night Black, Red, Yellow Man of the Hour WWS Amongst the Waves Mind Your Manners Lightning Bolt Who Ever Said Comes Then Goes
Best:
Even Flow Alive Black Animal Daughter Corduroy Better Man Immortality In My Tree Present Tense Given to Fly Do the Evolution In Hiding Nothing as it Seems Love Boat Captain I Am Mine Man of the Hour Severed Hand Unemployable Dance of the Clairvoyants Quick Escape Seven O'Clock
I’d have a bit of a different set of songs, but completely agree on the premise.
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