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Got Some · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 11:39 am **Posts:** 1713

I can understand anyone liking Binaural absolutely loving Gigaton. It’s think both albums share a lot of similarities.

I’m happy to declare it Pearl Jams best album in 20 years imho. And best since Matt Cameron has joined the band.

Josh Evans production is amazing.

I see the current track listing as a set list
The first 10 songs
Encore
Retrograde
River cross

Leatherhead · **Joined:** Fri August 09, 2013 4:38 am **Posts:** 3860

PHATJ wrote:

I just played the entire album twice, but on the second time through I went immediately into Binaural following River Cross. That transition into Breakerfall sounds fucking AWESOME. Seriously, you guys should check it out.

These two albums sound amazing back to back. :luv:

I'm gonna have to do this soon.

RockPusher · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 4:39 pm

Leatherhead wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

I just played the entire album twice, but on the second time through I went immediately into Binaural following River Cross. That transition into Breakerfall sounds fucking AWESOME. Seriously, you guys should check it out.

These two albums sound amazing back to back. :luv:

I'm gonna have to do this soon.

I tried this and have to agree with the PHAT one

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21841

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

PHATJ · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 6:51 pm

RockPusher wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

I just played the entire album twice, but on the second time through I went immediately into Binaural following River Cross. That transition into Breakerfall sounds fucking AWESOME. Seriously, you guys should check it out.

These two albums sound amazing back to back. :luv:

I'm gonna have to do this soon.

I tried this and have to agree with the PHAT one

Isn’t that a great transition!? It works phenomenally well.

PHATJ · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 6:54 pm

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21841

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

PHATJ · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 7:00 pm

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Sounds great. That’s basically the material I’ve been most interested in listening to over the last few years plus Gigaton. Sounds damn good to me.

RockPusher · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 8:00 pm

Upon hearing the interview with Josh Evans, I am convinced they can keep going with this paradigm shift. A lot of it has to do with him understanding their sound, their dynamic, and really their soul, from the duel perspectives of lifelong local fan and professional engineer. Add that to the new warehouse studio and it all makes more sense (he talked a lot about the time pressure being off thanks to the studio situation).

Hatfield · **Joined:** Fri January 04, 2013 8:54 pm **Posts:** 1464

RockPusher wrote:

Upon hearing the interview with Josh Evans, I am convinced they can keep going with this paradigm shift. A lot of it has to do with him understanding their sound, their dynamic, and really their soul, from the duel perspectives of lifelong local fan and professional engineer. Add that to the new warehouse studio and it all makes more sense (he talked a lot about the time pressure being off thanks to the studio situation).

More!

Rob · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 11:27 pm

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15136

Rob wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

There's three versions:

1. Adam Kasper's original mix, as released in 2006.
2. Kasper's original mix with much improved mastering, this was quietly uploaded to Spotify at some point.
3. Brendan O'Brien's 2017 remix.

McP's referring to the second of those above, I believe.

Thurman Murman · **Joined:** Sun January 06, 2013 4:25 am **Posts:** 1302

Birds in Hell wrote:

Rob wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

There's three versions:

1. Adam Kasper's original mix, as released in 2006.
2. Kasper's original mix with much improved mastering, this was quietly uploaded to Spotify at some point.
3. Brendan O'Brien's 2017 remix.

McP's referring to the second of those above, I believe.

Soooooo is there a way to hear/get the improved mastering without actually having/using Spotify?

Rob · **Posted:** Thu April 23, 2020 11:51 pm

Birds in Hell wrote:

Rob wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

There's three versions:

1. Adam Kasper's original mix, as released in 2006.
2. Kasper's original mix with much improved mastering, this was quietly uploaded to Spotify at some point.
3. Brendan O'Brien's 2017 remix.

McP's referring to the second of those above, I believe.

Awesome, thanks

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39870

Birds in Hell wrote:

Rob wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

There's three versions:

1. Adam Kasper's original mix, as released in 2006.
2. Kasper's original mix with much improved mastering, this was quietly uploaded to Spotify at some point.
3. Brendan O'Brien's 2017 remix.

McP's referring to the second of those above, I believe.

which do you reccomend?

wease · **Posted:** Fri April 24, 2020 5:31 pm

I didn’t know O’Brien did a remix in 2017. Where is this available?

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21841

wease wrote:

I didn’t know O’Brien did a remix in 2017. Where is this available?

Lots of places. Spotify. I think it’s the only mix available now on Apple Music.

LooseGroove927 · **Posted:** Sat April 25, 2020 12:08 am

Birds in Hell wrote:

Rob wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I had Gigaton, Binaural, Riot Act, and ST together in a playlist set to random yesterday, and it went in some really cool directions.

I’d only want to include about half of S/T if I did something like that. The production on some of those songs is just so jarring that I don’t think they would fit well with the others. Binaural sounds great coming out of Gigaton. I can imagine most of RA would work too.

I use the Spotify mix, which sounds a lot better than the original release or 2017 mix, but in each of these cases I removed songs I didn’t want to hear or felt didn’t belong. I also included some era-appropriate lost dogs.

Well I feel like an idiot, I didn't know there were better mixes of S/T.

There's three versions:

1. Adam Kasper's original mix, as released in 2006.
2. Kasper's original mix with much improved mastering, this was quietly uploaded to Spotify at some point.
3. Brendan O'Brien's 2017 remix.

McP's referring to the second of those above, I believe.

I have an mp3 320 of the Spotify mix. Does anyone know if there is a FLAC version available?

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15136

I don't think a truly lossless version is available as Spotify doesn't stream lossless audio.

Any FLAC version will be a lossless capture of a lossy stream, though that's still arguably the best you can hope for unless that master becomes available elsewhere.

LooseGroove927 · **Posted:** Sat April 25, 2020 12:19 am

Birds in Hell wrote:

I don't think a truly lossless version is available as Spotify doesn't stream lossless audio.

Any FLAC version will be a lossless capture of a lossy stream, though that's still arguably the best you can hope for unless that master becomes available elsewhere.

That's what I thought. I have Spotify, but rarely use it. Wasn't sure if there is a premium version that let you download FLAC files.

Gigaton is my favorite Pearl Jam Album

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