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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
This feels more like nearing the end than heading in a direction, especially by looking at their faces in that photo. I hope Stone will be happy one day.
I don't see anything but a bunch of miserable RAWK musicians because that's what you do in a RAWK photo; it feels like an attempt to remind us that they angrily RAWK
That RAWK look should be strong, determined, a no-bullshit state of mind. Not lethargic depression.
I can almost guarantee, for instance, that the R.E.M.-style into to Swallowed Whole was NOT on whatever demo Ed had made prior to coming in. I know someone else came up with that.
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bodysnatcher wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
FlatSideofaDog wrote:
It has never been Ed's band. He's not Roger Waters or Kurt Cobain. EV wrote 1/3 of Vitalogy; around 40% of No Code and Lightning Bolt; less than 20% of Yield; about 1/3 of binaural and riot act, and self-titled; about half of backspacer.
For me, I think it's more about the fact that I can close my eyes and pretty much already hear all of Ed's contributions to this record. Speaking as someone with admittedly no distinguishable songwriting talent, his stuff has gotten really monotonous over the past dozen years or so.
Some beautiful stuff over that time, but, let's shake it up a bit, yeah?
I have no idea how to play guitar, but this is similar to my take away the past decade. This is the guy who wrote "I Got Shit". That opening is so fucking good. It's like he lost his sense of nuance and tension. Now a song comes on and it's like, "Oh, here's Ed again."
to be fair, we don't know how this song begins and we don't know that it doesn't have a killer riff somewhere; this clip seems to be a lil break / interlude like the SBWM one was; we do know, from what reviews have said, that it apparently takes twists and turns and changes up halfway through, so we may yet get some of those dynamics
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oneway23 wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Hoping Gigaton mixes it up a bit.
I can almost guarantee, for instance, that the R.E.M.-style into to Swallowed Whole was NOT on whatever demo Ed had made prior to coming in. I know someone else came up with that.
it really seemed very un-characteristically Pearl Jam, almost like BoB had said "hey that's good but... how about something more like this?"
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Strat wrote:
Yea but that is forgetting the point that stone hasn't wrote a great riff in 20 years. Rival.
Maybe
I.like their classic rock and punk but after this album i hope they take a break from those on the majority of the next album. Some cleaner and more memorable (less generic) riffs would be a good change. If they have to copy a riff style on the next one it should be of Ten, Vs or maybe Yield.
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I can almost guarantee, for instance, that the R.E.M.-style into to Swallowed Whole was NOT on whatever demo Ed had made prior to coming in. I know someone else came up with that.
it really seemed very un-characteristically Pearl Jam, almost like BoB had said "hey that's good but... how about something more like this?"
Spot-on....entirely plausible. It was almost too cool for me to hear that. I'm convinced there's no conceivable way that would have been the intro to another Ed-penned Who rave-up.
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Hoping Gigaton mixes it up a bit.
I can almost guarantee, for instance, that the R.E.M.-style into to Swallowed Whole was NOT on whatever demo Ed had made prior to coming in. I know someone else came up with that.
it really seemed very un-characteristically Pearl Jam, almost like BoB had said "hey that's good but... how about something more like this?"
Spot-on....entirely plausible. It was almost too cool for me to hear that. I'm convinced there's no conceivable way that would have been the intro to another Ed-penned Who rave-up.
it's a very good example of what would be more like Counting Crows usually... I can't remember if "Accidentally In Love" begins like that but it's the song that came to mind
I'm expecting the "twist" in this song is actually a big bridge (usually my favorite parts of a PJ song, Life Wasted, Comatose, Severed Hand have awesome bridges) before roaring back into it's chorus at the end.
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I'm excited about that, I don't remember an elongated bridge in a PJ song, especially one that perhaps goes mellow and gentle before going back in; PJ have set a high bar with bridges, so this needs to be great
I think this song is going to go a few directions in the near 6 minutes.
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The opening of “Who Ever Said” is the kind of adrenalizing promise we shouldn’t dare ask from a band whose members are pushing six decades on the planet. With show-opener energy, the track is buoyantly punchy, even when it breaks open at the halfway point into Vedder’s magnetically contemplative counter-cadence to the beat (“Blinking stars, beneath you roam… room to tomb and cradle to grave…”). The song builds seductively, to a frantic climax as the final chorus rides out the moment for a delicious false finish.
I'm excited about that, I don't remember an elongated bridge in a PJ song, especially one that perhaps goes mellow and gentle before going back in; PJ have set a high bar with bridges, so this needs to be great
Just timed it, the bridge on Severed Hand goes on for almost 40 seconds, so I can see a good bridge being stretched out to about a minute. If I remember correctly, I think Quick Escape also takes some turns into a bridge as well. This is usually where Pearl Jam shine.
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Vindicator wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
I'm excited about that, I don't remember an elongated bridge in a PJ song, especially one that perhaps goes mellow and gentle before going back in; PJ have set a high bar with bridges, so this needs to be great
Just timed it, the bridge on Severed Hand goes on for almost 40 seconds, so I can see a good bridge being stretched out to about a minute. If I remember correctly, I think Quick Escape also takes some turns into a bridge as well. This is usually where Pearl Jam shine.
I totally agree
my favourite S/T moment is the bridge of Life Wasted
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what SBWM did really well, and you can see in the who ever said’ snippet, is take a more traditional riff and surround it with some really cook color. That is the piece missing on some of the recent songs in this vein
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stip wrote:
what SBWM did really well, and you can see in the who ever said’ snippet, is take a more traditional riff and surround it with some really cool color. That is the piece missing on some of the recent songs in this vein
what SBWM did really well, and you can see in the who ever said’ snippet, is take a more traditional riff and surround it with some really cool color. That is the piece missing on some of the recent songs in this vein
agreed
Absolutely! The last album had no ambience, and Backspacer was meant to be something else. I feel like the new one will be better because it's going to have some of those flourishes and memorable moments.
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