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| Author: | harmless [ Sat August 24, 2013 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Lounge Lizard wrote: harmless wrote: Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. Most PJ stuff could be played by any other band, I hate this criticism. PJ largely play generic rock songs, they sound good because PJ plays them. True. To my ears LBC and IAM are less original than this one. Different strokes. |
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| Author: | mkay0 [ Sat August 24, 2013 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. You and I have drastically differing opinions. |
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| Author: | Lounge Lizard [ Sat August 24, 2013 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
mkay0 wrote: Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. You and I have drastically differing opinions. |
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| Author: | iceagecoming [ Sat August 24, 2013 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for. |
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| Author: | Norris [ Sat August 24, 2013 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Cropduster, Ghost, Get Right, and Green Disease are all fantastic songs. Cropduster is definitely the best of the group though. |
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| Author: | HardTI [ Sat August 24, 2013 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
iceagecoming wrote: Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for. Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song. Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell. |
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| Author: | harmless [ Sat August 24, 2013 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency. |
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| Author: | HardTI [ Sat August 24, 2013 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
harmless wrote: A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency. fucking spot on 
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| Author: | EJ [ Sat August 24, 2013 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
For PJ, Cropduster is anything but a standard rock song. |
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| Author: | iceagecoming [ Sat August 24, 2013 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
HardTI wrote: iceagecoming wrote: Lounge Lizard wrote: Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions. Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for. Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song. Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell. The drums aren't enough to save Ghost for me, it's the music that does nothing for me. Not to say I hate it, I just have little desire to listen to it. I enjoy Green Disease when I hear it, but it feels like a definite B-side. |
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| Author: | stip [ Sat August 24, 2013 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Ghost has that great solo |
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| Author: | digster [ Sat August 24, 2013 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark. Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in. |
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| Author: | stip [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
digster wrote: Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark. Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in. there we go digster--totally in agreement  I think at this point both ghost and cropduster are in my riot act top 5 I am mine save you can't keep ghost cropduster And I like 1/2 full and you are fine, I guess. And sometimes help help. that's not a lot for an album of 15 songs... |
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| Author: | epilogue [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act. |
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| Author: | stip [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
durdencommatyler wrote: I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act. I can think of quite a bit, apparently |
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| Author: | Norris [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
Sometimes I skip Love Boat Captain. |
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| Author: | epilogue [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
stip wrote: durdencommatyler wrote: I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act. I can think of quite a bit, apparently Right, that's why I.... replied.... to you. 
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| Author: | epilogue [ Sat August 24, 2013 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
cutuphalfdead wrote: Sometimes I skip Love Boat Captain. I mean, I tend to listen to whole albums. But sometimes I skip. However, Riot Act, though not my #1 favorite PJ album, is the only PJ album that I never skip around on. |
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| Author: | Wendy Carlos's Twin [ Sun August 25, 2013 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
LOL at the guy who thinks "Cropduster" is a "generic straightforward rocker". Have you even listened to the song? I mean, more than just the first 5 seconds before you reach for the "skip" button? |
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| Author: | stip [ Sun August 25, 2013 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster |
durdencommatyler wrote: stip wrote: durdencommatyler wrote: I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act. I can think of quite a bit, apparently Right, that's why I.... replied.... to you. I just wanted to keep this moment going 
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