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Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Most PJ stuff could be played by any other band, I hate this criticism. PJ largely play generic rock songs, they sound good because PJ plays them.
some songs are more original others are less
True. To my ears LBC and IAM are less original than this one. Different strokes.
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Lounge Lizard wrote:
Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
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Lounge Lizard wrote:
Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song.
Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell.
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A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency.
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A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency.
fucking spot on
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HardTI wrote:
iceagecoming wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song.
Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell.
The drums aren't enough to save Ghost for me, it's the music that does nothing for me. Not to say I hate it, I just have little desire to listen to it. I enjoy Green Disease when I hear it, but it feels like a definite B-side.
Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark.
Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in.
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digster wrote:
Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark.
Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in.
there we go digster--totally in agreement
I think at this point both ghost and cropduster are in my riot act top 5
I am mine save you can't keep ghost cropduster
And I like 1/2 full and you are fine, I guess. And sometimes help help. that's not a lot for an album of 15 songs...
I mean, I tend to listen to whole albums. But sometimes I skip. However, Riot Act, though not my #1 favorite PJ album, is the only PJ album that I never skip around on.
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