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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
PostPosted: Tue April 10, 2018 8:52 pm 
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McParadigm wrote:
The last RDMN album was so much better than anything Pearl Jam has dreamed up in years, if this is a bummer I just don’t even want to know it exists.

Turns out it’s fine. And measureably better than Can't Deny Me. So, no change.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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There's a real novice/outsider streak that continues to run through Jeff's music, like he has no qualms about shoehorning in lyrics or instrumentation that might feel clunky, purely because he's excited he has created them and wants to share them with people; it's like he's never stopped being a student and doesn't pay any mind to the idea of perfection.

I hope it never changes for him, even if the end results are wildly variable.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
There's a real novice/outsider streak that continues to run through Jeff's music, like he has no qualms about shoehorning in lyrics or instrumentation that might feel clunky, purely because he's excited he has created them and wants to share them with people; it's like he's never stopped being a student and doesn't pay any mind to the idea of perfection.

Well put.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
There's a real novice/outsider streak that continues to run through Jeff's music, like he has no qualms about shoehorning in lyrics or instrumentation that might feel clunky, purely because he's excited he has created them and wants to share them with people; it's like he's never stopped being a student and doesn't pay any mind to the idea of perfection.

I hope it never changes for him, even if the end results are wildly variable.


agreed. i think this comes from his fine arts background + punk rock attitude. he obviously really enjoys creating, and does so with a looseness that awards him a larger area to explore within the confines of a song/painting/etc


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bodysnatcher wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
There's a real novice/outsider streak that continues to run through Jeff's music, like he has no qualms about shoehorning in lyrics or instrumentation that might feel clunky, purely because he's excited he has created them and wants to share them with people; it's like he's never stopped being a student and doesn't pay any mind to the idea of perfection.

I hope it never changes for him, even if the end results are wildly variable.


agreed. i think this comes from his fine arts background + punk rock attitude. he obviously really enjoys creating, and does so with a looseness that awards him a larger area to explore within the confines of a song/painting/etc

You cant deny jeff


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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VinylGuy wrote:
I blame Eddie and Stone.

I mean, pretty much. Mike is obviously still doing a bunch of side stuff with his scores and tv music, Matt had Cavedweller and writes all the Pearl Jam stuff anyway. So those guys are clearly still into writing music.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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This is great!

Agree that the production on this is miles better than the last few Pearl Jam records.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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Birds in Hell wrote:
This is great!

Agree that the production on this is miles better than the last few Pearl Jam records.


agreed. shows how the production for an artist who doesn't want his vocals up front can differ compared to an artist who requires it


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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I have much stronger feelings about the guitar and drum sounds on the last two PJ albums than I do Ed’s vocals.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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Birds in Hell wrote:
I have much stronger feelings about the guitar and drum sounds on the last two PJ albums than I do Ed’s vocals.


i'd be more interested in a PJ instrumental album, and an Ed solo album


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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wtf is this misleading headline :haha:


https://www.stereogum.com/1990889/hear-angel-olsens-new-track-with-three-members-of-pearl-jam/music/


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
I blame Eddie and Stone.

I mean, pretty much. Mike is obviously still doing a bunch of side stuff with his scores and tv music, Matt had Cavedweller and writes all the Pearl Jam stuff anyway. So those guys are clearly still into writing music.


Yeah, Mike seems to always been doing stuff. Matt too...Jeff too...So fuck you ed and stone. Fuck you.

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lol guys cavedweller was rubbish.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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This sounds like a Matt Cameron vs Jack Irons solo album showdown


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WtOB? wrote:
lol guys cavedweller was rubbish.

It was pretty disappointing.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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McParadigm wrote:
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The last RDMN album was so much better than anything Pearl Jam has dreamed up in years, if this is a bummer I just don’t even want to know it exists.

Turns out it’s fine. And measureably better than Can't Deny Me. So, no change.


There's always interesting ideas running through Jeff's music, admittedly the execution isn't always there, but yeah, this shits all over that garbage song they just released.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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bodysnatcher wrote:

I didn't know Mike and Matt were also on Safe In The Car. That's fucking awesome.


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I listened to this a few more times this morning on better headphones and I really, really dig it. This is a strong first "single" and if it's any indication of what we can expect from the record, it could very well end up knocking Bayleaf out of the #1 side project spot, for me. But that's putting the cart WAY before the horse. I'm just excited to hear more.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Ament - Heaven/Hell
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I agree with that Joe. It does sounds awesome...Bayleaf had the number one spot for a long time, but in the last couple of years RNDM won that, And of course im not counting Mad Season or Temple of the dog.

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VinylGuy wrote:
I agree with that Joe. It does sounds awesome...Bayleaf had the number one spot for a long time, but in the last couple of years RNDM won that, And of course im not counting Mad Season or Temple of the dog.


1. RNDM - Ghost Riding
2. Eddie Vedder - Into the Wild
3. Three Fish - Three Fish
4. Brad - Interiors
5. Wellwater Conspiracy - Wellwater Conspiracy
6. Brad - Shame
7. RNDM - Acts
8. Mad Season - Mad Season
9. Jack Irons - Attension Dimension
10. Three Fish - The Quiet Table


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