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 Post subject: Re: List your top ten standout PJ songs....
PostPosted: Sat March 24, 2018 9:28 pm 
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Here's what it says in the cd cover: A stray tape found in the bottom of a box marked "Singles" yielded this peek into the band's early creative process. Here's Eddie and Stone trading ideas and rhythms, exploring their newly minted potential. The ideas still sound fresh today.


:( I guess we'll never know.

I feel like some of their best songs come from Ed and Stone sessions.


Absolutely. Those guys can create magic together.


I think the band admits that there was a power struggle between Ed and Stone in PJ20, until Ed sort of just took over. Oddly enough, their co-creativity is what made for amazing music. I'm going to take a shower now.


Yes. No one not in the band knows everything about it, but I think it's generally agreed that it was Stone that made the band (with the help of Mike and Jeff) and wrote the majority of the music for Ten and Vs, and sort of had final say on a lot of things. Of course Ed coming in and laying down lyrics, voice and his charisna, was massive, even then. The two of them made Daughter together, Ed played Small Town and Stone loved it, and wanted them to work on it the same day etc. Starting with Vitalogy however, Ed had a lot more say on the makeup of the album (and the band, making Stone fire Dave A), and even more with No Code. Before making Yield the band worked out some issues, and there was more of a full cooperation onwards from there. Now everyone brings in ideas, but if Ed doesn't like singing on a song, it doesn't make the album. He also gets more money than the others. Stone said he struggled a little bit with it during the making of Vitalogy, but then came to the conclusion that it was fine, and that he was lucky working with Ed. Jeff however nearly quit the band when they started No Code, as he had not been informed properly of when they were starting the studio work.


So this is the story that explains why Stone is secretly an asshole and how Ed essentially ruined the band post Binaural.


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StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
Here's what it says in the cd cover: A stray tape found in the bottom of a box marked "Singles" yielded this peek into the band's early creative process. Here's Eddie and Stone trading ideas and rhythms, exploring their newly minted potential. The ideas still sound fresh today.


:( I guess we'll never know.

I feel like some of their best songs come from Ed and Stone sessions.


Absolutely. Those guys can create magic together.


I think the band admits that there was a power struggle between Ed and Stone in PJ20, until Ed sort of just took over. Oddly enough, their co-creativity is what made for amazing music. I'm going to take a shower now.


Yes. No one not in the band knows everything about it, but I think it's generally agreed that it was Stone that made the band (with the help of Mike and Jeff) and wrote the majority of the music for Ten and Vs, and sort of had final say on a lot of things. Of course Ed coming in and laying down lyrics, voice and his charisma, was massive, even then. The two of them made Daughter together, Ed played Small Town and Stone loved it, and wanted them to work on it the same day etc. Starting with Vitalogy however, Ed had a lot more say on the makeup of the album (and the band, making Stone fire Dave A), and even more with No Code. Before making Yield the band worked out some issues, and there was more of a full cooperation onwards from there. Now everyone brings in ideas, but if Ed doesn't like singing on a song, it doesn't make the album. He also gets more money than the others. Stone said he struggled a little bit with it during the making of Vitalogy, but then came to the conclusion that it was fine, and that he was lucky working with Ed. Jeff however nearly quit the band when they started No Code, as he had not been informed properly of when they were starting the studio work.


So this is the story that explains why Stone is secretly an asshole and how Ed essentially ruined the band post Binaural.


Don't think either are true, they just got older. Still, I do wish they had made some different choices with their albums. Always been happy to see them live.


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Anders wrote:
StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
Here's what it says in the cd cover: A stray tape found in the bottom of a box marked "Singles" yielded this peek into the band's early creative process. Here's Eddie and Stone trading ideas and rhythms, exploring their newly minted potential. The ideas still sound fresh today.


:( I guess we'll never know.

I feel like some of their best songs come from Ed and Stone sessions.


Absolutely. Those guys can create magic together.


I think the band admits that there was a power struggle between Ed and Stone in PJ20, until Ed sort of just took over. Oddly enough, their co-creativity is what made for amazing music. I'm going to take a shower now.


Yes. No one not in the band knows everything about it, but I think it's generally agreed that it was Stone that made the band (with the help of Mike and Jeff) and wrote the majority of the music for Ten and Vs, and sort of had final say on a lot of things. Of course Ed coming in and laying down lyrics, voice and his charisma, was massive, even then. The two of them made Daughter together, Ed played Small Town and Stone loved it, and wanted them to work on it the same day etc. Starting with Vitalogy however, Ed had a lot more say on the makeup of the album (and the band, making Stone fire Dave A), and even more with No Code. Before making Yield the band worked out some issues, and there was more of a full cooperation onwards from there. Now everyone brings in ideas, but if Ed doesn't like singing on a song, it doesn't make the album. He also gets more money than the others. Stone said he struggled a little bit with it during the making of Vitalogy, but then came to the conclusion that it was fine, and that he was lucky working with Ed. Jeff however nearly quit the band when they started No Code, as he had not been informed properly of when they were starting the studio work.


So this is the story that explains why Stone is secretly an asshole and how Ed essentially ruined the band post Binaural.


Don't think either are true, they just got older. Still, I do wish they had made some different choices with their albums. Always been happy to see them live.


LOL. I'm just fucking around. I just love that despite the tug-o-war, they respected each other and made some amazing music.


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StonyGold wrote:
Anders wrote:
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Anders wrote:
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Anders wrote:
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Anders wrote:
Here's what it says in the cd cover: A stray tape found in the bottom of a box marked "Singles" yielded this peek into the band's early creative process. Here's Eddie and Stone trading ideas and rhythms, exploring their newly minted potential. The ideas still sound fresh today.


:( I guess we'll never know.

I feel like some of their best songs come from Ed and Stone sessions.


Absolutely. Those guys can create magic together.


I think the band admits that there was a power struggle between Ed and Stone in PJ20, until Ed sort of just took over. Oddly enough, their co-creativity is what made for amazing music. I'm going to take a shower now.


Yes. No one not in the band knows everything about it, but I think it's generally agreed that it was Stone that made the band (with the help of Mike and Jeff) and wrote the majority of the music for Ten and Vs, and sort of had final say on a lot of things. Of course Ed coming in and laying down lyrics, voice and his charisma, was massive, even then. The two of them made Daughter together, Ed played Small Town and Stone loved it, and wanted them to work on it the same day etc. Starting with Vitalogy however, Ed had a lot more say on the makeup of the album (and the band, making Stone fire Dave A), and even more with No Code. Before making Yield the band worked out some issues, and there was more of a full cooperation onwards from there. Now everyone brings in ideas, but if Ed doesn't like singing on a song, it doesn't make the album. He also gets more money than the others. Stone said he struggled a little bit with it during the making of Vitalogy, but then came to the conclusion that it was fine, and that he was lucky working with Ed. Jeff however nearly quit the band when they started No Code, as he had not been informed properly of when they were starting the studio work.


So this is the story that explains why Stone is secretly an asshole and how Ed essentially ruined the band post Binaural.


Don't think either are true, they just got older. Still, I do wish they had made some different choices with their albums. Always been happy to see them live.


LOL. I'm just fucking around. I just love that despite the tug-o-war, they respected each other and made some amazing music.


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Rare really. Most of their peers are gone or done.


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I can't hear any. But I'm sure Stone can handle a bass if needed.


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There's definitely bass starting around 1:17.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was played by Stone, it sounds a little clunky to be Jeff.


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Anders wrote:
I can't hear any. But I'm sure Stone can handle a bass if needed.

No wonder you hate "Get Right"; your ears are busted


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There's definitely bass starting around 1:17.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was played by Stone, it sounds a little clunky to be Jeff.

See I'd like it to be Ed. Are there any recorded instances of Ed playing bass on a Pearl Jam song?


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There's definitely bass starting around 1:17.


:thumbsup: I thought it was just the guitar, but I'm sure you're right.


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I can't hear any. But I'm sure Stone can handle a bass if needed.

No wonder you hate "Get Right"; your ears are busted

That's rude. :mrgreen:


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There's definitely bass starting around 1:17.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was played by Stone, it sounds a little clunky to be Jeff.

See I'd like it to be Ed. Are there any recorded instances of Ed playing bass on a Pearl Jam song?


But it says in the credits that it's only Stone on guitar. Bass is a guitar.


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Really? What about it makes it stand out for you?


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Really? What about Happy When I’m Crying makes it stand out for you?


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Really? What about Happy When I’m Crying makes it stand out for you?


Christ, I must be drunk.


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