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PostPosted: Tue March 20, 2018 7:20 pm 
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.


The band had him killed. They used the same guy Hillary uses.


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Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.

Do you have one where he's not grating?

It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.

I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.

The well is dry. Thus, the mining of an already released song: Sleeping By Myself.


Yeah, because there's no precedent of the band taking a solo Ed song either released or previously performed and making it their own...


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.


The band had him killed. They used the same guy Hillary uses.

I have it on good authority it was this guy:
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No, he's still around, but doesn't post as much anymore

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
EJ wrote:
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Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.

Do you have one where he's not grating?

It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.

I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.

The well is dry. Thus, the mining of an already released song: Sleeping By Myself.


Yeah, because there's no precedent of the band taking a solo Ed song either released or previously performed and making it their own...

I may be having a mental block, but what other previously released song did they put on a new album?


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EJ wrote:
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Bad take of Let it Ride, tree.

Do you have one where he's not grating?

It is also just an unreleased demo/outtake. And, for what it is, its pretty fantastic.

I admit it proves the point they're capable of more, even in this dark age of lethargy.

The well is dry. Thus, the mining of an already released song: Sleeping By Myself.


Yeah, because there's no precedent of the band taking a solo Ed song either released or previously performed and making it their own...

I may be having a mental block, but what other previously released song did they put on a new album?


Not really officially "released" songs, but Betterman, Gone, and Can't Keep come to mind.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.

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2×4 - we’ve heard this
Of The Earth - and this
Cold Confession - and this
World Wide Suicide - and this
Marker - and this
Armor - don’t know what this is (maybe Army Reserve, total guess)
Crapshoot Rapture - this is Comatose
Let It Ride - heard this
The Bigger The Wave - heard this

We got the 10 Billion Years/Rearranged Furniture/Rearranged other stuff leak. Was there supposed to be other songs too?

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There’s been a lot of push back like this on the new song, but it seems like no one has considered this possibility:

Maybe the band really likes the song.


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PHATJ wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.

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2×4 - we’ve heard this
Of The Earth - and this
Cold Confession - and this
World Wide Suicide - and this
Marker - and this
Armor - don’t know what this is (maybe Army Reserve, total guess)
Crapshoot Rapture - this is Comatose
Let It Ride - heard this
The Bigger The Wave - heard this

We got the 10 Billion Years/Rearranged Furniture/Rearranged other stuff leak. Was there supposed to be other songs too?

Yeah I'm not sure. Just know that there were 11 songs on the disc he had that included CC and LiR. It could be those, I guess.

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There’s been a lot of push back like this on the new song, but it seems like no one has considered this possibility:

Maybe the band really likes the song.

No, that was one of the first things I considered. The truth is, they don't like this song. Nobody likes this song.

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It's been baffling to hear a truly uninspired song from them because I guess I wasn't willing to consider maybe they're not trying to do something inspired or delve into the depths of their own souls as I used to imagine they did, which they might have done in their good days..


Maybe they're out of ideas. Or maybe they just aren't inspired.

But let's not talk like everything Pearl Jam put out in the 90's was fucking profound. "Animal" is a guy counting to five and repeating the chorus over and over. He says the word "Spin" like 50 times in less than three minutes in Spin The Black Circle. So it's fine if you think Can't Deny Me sucks, cause it kinda does (I sorta like the chorus I have to admit), but spare me the "delve in the depth of their own souls" crap. It's just a rock band.

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I remember the person that leaked those two to us apparently had a disc with like 11 songs on it. I'd paypal him like ten bucks if he could send me the rest of the songs.

bodysnatcher wrote:

2×4 - we’ve heard this
Of The Earth - and this
Cold Confession - and this
World Wide Suicide - and this
Marker - and this
Armor - don’t know what this is (maybe Army Reserve, total guess)
Crapshoot Rapture - this is Comatose
Let It Ride - heard this
The Bigger The Wave - heard this

We got the 10 Billion Years/Rearranged Furniture/Rearranged other stuff leak. Was there supposed to be other songs too?

Yeah I'm not sure. Just know that there were 11 songs on the disc he had that included CC and LiR. It could be those, I guess.

I’d hope there’s more because I’d love to hear them, but my guess is that we’ve gotten most if not all of them with that leak. Again, total guess, and I hope I’m wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: What Happened?
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It's been baffling to hear a truly uninspired song from them because I guess I wasn't willing to consider maybe they're not trying to do something inspired or delve into the depths of their own souls as I used to imagine they did, which they might have done in their good days..


Maybe they're out of ideas. Or maybe they just aren't inspired.

But let's not talk like everything Pearl Jam put out in the 90's was fucking profound. "Animal" is a guy counting to five and repeating the chorus over and over. He says the word "Spin" like 50 times in less than three minutes in Spin The Black Circle. So it's fine if you think Can't Deny Me sucks, cause it kinda does (I sorta like the chorus I have to admit), but spare me the "delve in the depth of their own souls" crap. It's just a rock band.

There was actual passion in Animal and Spin the Black Circle. You could feel they really meant it, and it meant something to the audience.

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Wasn't Pendulum an outtake from Backspacer?

2004 was the last year of God-tier Pearl Jam.

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man, even Backspacer had some songs from their sessions that weren't used. Lightning Bolt had nothing other than what's on the album :shake:


Do we know that for a fact?


it came from the recording sessions site that seems to be (somehow, and creepily) accurate. of course, these might not count other sessions they might have had at private home studios, etc


I disagree. There was a studio version of Of The Earth. I heard it was part of the original tracklisting. It was replaced at the last moment with Sleeping By Myself.

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Wasn't Pendulum an outtake from Backspacer?
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It's been baffling to hear a truly uninspired song from them because I guess I wasn't willing to consider maybe they're not trying to do something inspired or delve into the depths of their own souls as I used to imagine they did, which they might have done in their good days..


Maybe they're out of ideas. Or maybe they just aren't inspired.

But let's not talk like everything Pearl Jam put out in the 90's was fucking profound. "Animal" is a guy counting to five and repeating the chorus over and over. He says the word "Spin" like 50 times in less than three minutes in Spin The Black Circle. So it's fine if you think Can't Deny Me sucks, cause it kinda does (I sorta like the chorus I have to admit), but spare me the "delve in the depth of their own souls" crap. It's just a rock band.

There was actual passion in Animal and Spin the Black Circle. You could feel they really meant it, and it meant something to the audience.

Also, I don't buy the 'out of ideas' or 'uninspired' claims because I know with the talents of this band, if they sat down and worked on intricate guitar parts, even if the chords were somewhat boring, interesting drum patterns, calm Ed down and come up with some unretarded lyrics, it would be pretty good.

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tree_ wrote:
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It's been baffling to hear a truly uninspired song from them because I guess I wasn't willing to consider maybe they're not trying to do something inspired or delve into the depths of their own souls as I used to imagine they did, which they might have done in their good days..


Maybe they're out of ideas. Or maybe they just aren't inspired.

But let's not talk like everything Pearl Jam put out in the 90's was fucking profound. "Animal" is a guy counting to five and repeating the chorus over and over. He says the word "Spin" like 50 times in less than three minutes in Spin The Black Circle. So it's fine if you think Can't Deny Me sucks, cause it kinda does (I sorta like the chorus I have to admit), but spare me the "delve in the depth of their own souls" crap. It's just a rock band.

There was actual passion in Animal and Spin the Black Circle. You could feel they really meant it, and it meant something to the audience.


But who are you to say there isn't actual passion behind Can't Deny Me? What makes you think there's no passion behind it? Because it's simple? Because it sucks? Just judging by the vocal (as horrible as it may sound at times), he sounds pretty passionate about it all to me.

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tree_ wrote:
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It's been baffling to hear a truly uninspired song from them because I guess I wasn't willing to consider maybe they're not trying to do something inspired or delve into the depths of their own souls as I used to imagine they did, which they might have done in their good days..


Maybe they're out of ideas. Or maybe they just aren't inspired.

But let's not talk like everything Pearl Jam put out in the 90's was fucking profound. "Animal" is a guy counting to five and repeating the chorus over and over. He says the word "Spin" like 50 times in less than three minutes in Spin The Black Circle. So it's fine if you think Can't Deny Me sucks, cause it kinda does (I sorta like the chorus I have to admit), but spare me the "delve in the depth of their own souls" crap. It's just a rock band.

There was actual passion in Animal and Spin the Black Circle. You could feel they really meant it, and it meant something to the audience.

Also, I don't buy the 'out of ideas' or 'uninspired' claims because I know with the talents of this band, if they sat down and worked on intricate guitar parts, even if the chords were somewhat boring, interesting drum patterns, calm Ed down and come up with some unretarded lyrics, it would be pretty good.


Oh you want "Unretarded lyrics." I get it now.

I mean, come on, you can't critique a songwriter and suggest you'd prefer "Unretarded lyrics."

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