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 Post subject: Celebration Rock with Steven Hyden (PJ Audio History)
PostPosted: Mon March 13, 2017 6:58 pm 
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I haven't listened to this yet. But it's Part 1 of a 7-part podcast-series where Steve Hyden analyzes the history of Pearl Jam. The first one focuses on Ten and everything leading up to it. It seems promising. But I'll warn you: it's a 1:32 long. Hyden does interview Mark Pellington and some dude from Rolling Stone.

https://audioboom.com/posts/5702220-vit ... -jam-s-ten

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so far nothing. just a reference to some guy having a heroin overdose..


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Cool. I will devour this.


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http://uproxx.com/music/celebration-rock-pearl-jam-ten/

The Celebration Rock Podcast: Our Seven-Part Series On Pearl Jam Begins By Delving Into ‘Ten’
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Welcome to The Celebration Rock Podcast, a weekly talk show hosted by Steven Hyden about the past, present, and future of rock music.

Next month, Pearl Jam will be inducted into the Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame. To mark this momentous occasion, we’re excited to launch Vitalogy-alogy, our seven-part series on the history of one of America’s biggest and most fascinating bands.

Our purpose is to answer one question: How did Pearl Jam survive? In the early ’90s, Eddie Vedder was the biggest young rock star in the world — in the wake of Ten‘s success, he was even more popular than his erstwhile rival, Kurt Cobain. And it practically happened overnight — when the video for “Jeremy” debuted on MTV in the fall of 1992, sending Ten into the stratosphere, it was barely two years after Pearl Jam’s first rehearsal. The way that Pearl Jam reacted to that sudden fame informs the narrative of the band’s entire career. Decades before they were feted by the Rock Hall, Pearl Jam had to figure out what kind of band they wanted to be as millions of people watched their every move.

For our episode on Ten, we spoke with journalist Brian Hiatt of Rolling Stone, who got to know the band while profiling them for a 2006 cover story and over many subsequent interviews. We also spoke with Mark Pellington, one of the greatest music-video directors ever, about his experience making the iconic video for “Jeremy.”

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I will probably listen to this someday, but that day would be greatly hastened by someone else listening to this and confirming it is worhtwhile

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Unless the band ever opens up about unheard recordings, Ed's divorce (and impact on music), or new info on the drummer history, I don't expect there's anything new to be found in revisiting their history. The PJ20/Pearl Jam Twenty combo pretty much covered everything else.


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Unless the band ever opens up about unheard recordings, Ed's divorce (and impact on music), or new info on the drummer history, I don't expect there's anything new to be found in revisiting their history. The PJ20/Pearl Jam Twenty combo pretty much covered everything else.


They did a good job on keeping a lot of inner stories really locked.

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How did Pearl Jam survive? A guy took over, the other guys said "Well, we've tried for years to get to this point. We're set for life. If we leave now we'll probably get another flake singer. They're all flakes." So they stayed and enjoyed the fruits(and made some good music).


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How did Pearl Jam survive? A guy took over, the other guys said "Well, we've tried for years to get to this point. We're set for life. If we leave now we'll probably get another flake singer. They're all flakes." So they stayed and enjoyed the fruits(and made some good music).

No disrespect, but I think this is a gross oversimplification. Eddie back in the day was a special dude, and a rare breed in the music world: Incredible pipes, a real passion for the music, a vision for where the band could go, and no major drug or alcohol dependencies. My sense is they had already seen enough of the rock world to know how lucky they were to have him.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
rick malone wrote:
How did Pearl Jam survive? A guy took over, the other guys said "Well, we've tried for years to get to this point. We're set for life. If we leave now we'll probably get another flake singer. They're all flakes." So they stayed and enjoyed the fruits(and made some good music).

No disrespect, but I think this is a gross oversimplification. Eddie back in the day was a special dude, and a rare breed in the music world: Incredible pipes, a real passion for the music, a vision for where the band could go, and no major drug or alcohol dependencies. My sense is they had already seen enough of the rock world to know how lucky they were to have him.

Yes oversimplifying but I basically said your last sentence in a different way. They knew lightning probably wouldn't strike twice.


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rick malone wrote:
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rick malone wrote:
How did Pearl Jam survive? A guy took over, the other guys said "Well, we've tried for years to get to this point. We're set for life. If we leave now we'll probably get another flake singer. They're all flakes." So they stayed and enjoyed the fruits(and made some good music).

No disrespect, but I think this is a gross oversimplification. Eddie back in the day was a special dude, and a rare breed in the music world: Incredible pipes, a real passion for the music, a vision for where the band could go, and no major drug or alcohol dependencies. My sense is they had already seen enough of the rock world to know how lucky they were to have him.

Yes oversimplifying but I basically said your last sentence in a different way. They knew lightning probably wouldn't strike twice.

Ah, sorry. I misunderstood your comment to be painting the bandmembers in a more lazy/opportunistic light.


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I agree with everything's that been said, but they still owe a lot to serendipity. They still get a lot of mileage out of being a part of and helping ushering in a new "sound." They definitely came in at the right time smack dab during a huge inflection point for music.


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Chris_H_2 wrote:
I agree with everything's that been said, but they still owe a lot to serendipity. They still get a lot of mileage out of being a part of and helping ushering in a new "sound." They definitely came in at the right time smack dab during a huge inflection point for music.

Yep. But I do think it's interesting that MLB, while not really one of my favorite bands, had a sound that was somewhat fresh and different from the popular rock of the day, while the Indian Style stuff sounds like a watered-down RHCP cover band. Ed needed the boys every bit as much as they needed Ed.


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Bad Radio definitely plays to his Ten era sensibilities, though he obviously upped his game

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 Post subject: Re: A (Lengthy) Audio History/Analysis of this Stupid Band
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It also didn't hurt that they basically formed and walked into a major label deal almost instantaneously.


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 Post subject: Re: A (Lengthy) Audio History/Analysis of this Stupid Band
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Yea, their A&R guy from Polygram/MLB moved to Epic at just the right time.


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Band always walked in nirvanas shadow and filtered every decision through how Cobain would view it and mock them mercilessly for it.


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