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Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 5:27 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon March 30, 2020 11:59 pm Posts: 1677 Location: sleep sac in a bivouac
Quick Escape (Gigaton) Army Reserve (Avocado) Come Back (Avocado) Alright (Gigaton) Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) Just Breathe (Backspacer) Buckle Up (Gigaton) Marker In The Sand (Avocado) Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) Sirens (Lightning Bolt) Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) Who Ever Said (Gigaton) Force of Nature (Backspacer) The Fixer (Backspacer) Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) Inside Job (Avocado) World Wide Suicide (Avocado) Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) River Cross (Gigaton) Retrograde (Gigaton) Unthought Known (Backspacer) Gone (Avocado) Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) Got Some (Backspacer) Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) The End (Backspacer) Severed Hand (Avocado) Life Wasted (Avocado) Unemployable (Avocado) Never Destination (Gigaton) Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton) Parachutes (Avocado) Infallible (Lightning Bolt) Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt) Future Days (Lightning Bolt) Speed of Sound (Backspacer) Getaway (Lightning Bolt) Take the Long Way (Gigaton) Big Wave (Avocado) Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) Wasted Reprise (Avocado) Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) Comatose (Avocado) Supersonic (Backspacer) My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) Johnny Guitar (Backspacer)
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:07 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
Finally got around to it and actually went for the Comprehensive Ranker. That was.... time consuming.
48. Quick Escape (Gigaton) 46. Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) 45. Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) 44. Who Ever Said (Gigaton) 43. Take the Long Way (Gigaton) 40. Inside Job (Avocado) 40. Alright (Gigaton) 39. Infallible (Lightning Bolt) 38. Force of Nature (Backspacer) 34. Severed Hand (Avocado) 34. Retrograde (Gigaton) 33. Parachutes (Avocado) 31. Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) 30. River Cross (Gigaton) 30. Come Back (Avocado) 30. Sirens (Lightning Bolt) 27. Marker In The Sand (Avocado) 27. World Wide Suicide (Avocado) 26. Getaway (Lightning Bolt) 24. Just Breathe (Backspacer) 23. Life Wasted (Avocado) 22. Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton) 21. Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) 21. Buckle Up (Gigaton) 20. The Fixer (Backspacer) 19. Army Reserve (Avocado) 17. Got Some (Backspacer) 16. Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) 16. Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) 15. Never Destination (Gigaton) 15. Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt) 14. Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) 14. Unthought Known (Backspacer) 12. The End (Backspacer) 11. My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) 11. Unemployable (Avocado) 8. Johnny Guitar (Backspacer) 8. Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) 8. Gone (Avocado) 7. Speed of Sound (Backspacer) 6. Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) 6. Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) 5. Comatose (Avocado) 5. Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) 4. Big Wave (Avocado) 2. Wasted Reprise (Avocado) 0. Supersonic (Backspacer) 0. Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:11 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
Release_Me wrote:
Finally got around to it and actually went for the Comprehensive Ranker. That was.... time consuming.
48. Quick Escape (Gigaton) 46. Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) 45. Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) 44. Who Ever Said (Gigaton) 43. Take the Long Way (Gigaton) 40. Inside Job (Avocado) 40. Alright (Gigaton) 39. Infallible (Lightning Bolt) 38. Force of Nature (Backspacer) 34. Severed Hand (Avocado) 34. Retrograde (Gigaton) 33. Parachutes (Avocado) 31. Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) 30. River Cross (Gigaton) 30. Come Back (Avocado) 30. Sirens (Lightning Bolt) 27. Marker In The Sand (Avocado) 27. World Wide Suicide (Avocado) 26. Getaway (Lightning Bolt) 24. Just Breathe (Backspacer) 23. Life Wasted (Avocado) 22. Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton) 21. Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) 21. Buckle Up (Gigaton) 20. The Fixer (Backspacer) 19. Army Reserve (Avocado) 17. Got Some (Backspacer) 16. Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) 16. Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) 15. Never Destination (Gigaton) 15. Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt) 14. Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) 14. Unthought Known (Backspacer) 12. The End (Backspacer) 11. My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) 11. Unemployable (Avocado) 8. Johnny Guitar (Backspacer) 8. Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) 8. Gone (Avocado) 7. Speed of Sound (Backspacer) 6. Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) 6. Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) 5. Comatose (Avocado) 5. Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) 4. Big Wave (Avocado) 2. Wasted Reprise (Avocado) 0. Supersonic (Backspacer) 0. Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
Writer scores Mike McCready: 341 (Average: 28.4) Jeff Ament: 295 (Average: 26.8) Matt Cameron: 127 (Average: 25.4) Eddie Vedder: 483 (Average: 22.0) Stone Gossard: 304 (Average: 21.7)
I have to say, I have no idea how some of these songs ended up where they did. Comes Then Goes, Buckle Up, Yellow Moon could not be so low if the ranker was working properly. There's just no way.
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Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 9:13 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
The placement of River Cross and Retrograde in relative terms also makes no sense. I would expect to see River Cross ranked higher than Retrograde. Buckle Up would be somewhere in between. Comes Then Goes would be in the top 10-12. Not sure what happened here, really.
_________________ Pearl Jam is the only band I'll spend money on.
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 10:41 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
Tried the Standard Ranker this time and I think the results are more reflective of how I feel about the songs.
Quick Escape (Gigaton) Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) Who Ever Said (Gigaton) Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) Take the Long Way (Gigaton) Inside Job (Avocado) Alright (Gigaton) Severed Hand (Avocado) Buckle Up (Gigaton) Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) Force of Nature (Backspacer) River Cross (Gigaton) Infallible (Lightning Bolt) Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) Parachutes (Avocado) Come Back (Avocado) Marker In The Sand (Avocado) Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) World Wide Suicide (Avocado) Retrograde (Gigaton) Getaway (Lightning Bolt) Sirens (Lightning Bolt) The Fixer (Backspacer) Just Breathe (Backspacer) Life Wasted (Avocado) Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) Army Reserve (Avocado) Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt) Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) Unthought Known (Backspacer) Got Some (Backspacer) Never Destination (Gigaton) Unemployable (Avocado) Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) The End (Backspacer) My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) Supersonic (Backspacer) Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton) Johnny Guitar (Backspacer) Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) Comatose (Avocado) Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) Big Wave (Avocado) Speed of Sound (Backspacer) Gone (Avocado) Wasted Reprise (Avocado) Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 10:47 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
Only questionable outcomes are SBWM ending up below Supersonic (what?) and Buckle Up over River Cross (less of an issue with this one; I just think they could switch places).
_________________ Pearl Jam is the only band I'll spend money on.
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Wed April 22, 2020 11:02 pm
tl;dr
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8569
Some songs feel like they landed in weird spots, but overall this feels pretty good to me.
Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) Parachutes (Avocado) Buckle Up (Gigaton) The Fixer (Backspacer) Take the Long Way (Gigaton) Marker In The Sand (Avocado) Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) Army Reserve (Avocado) Big Wave (Avocado) Who Ever Said (Gigaton) Johnny Guitar (Backspacer) Got Some (Backspacer) Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton) Severed Hand (Avocado) Quick Escape (Gigaton) Never Destination (Gigaton) Life Wasted (Avocado) Infallible (Lightning Bolt) Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) Force of Nature (Backspacer) Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) Sirens (Lightning Bolt) Unemployable (Avocado) World Wide Suicide (Avocado) Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) The End (Backspacer) Comatose (Avocado) Speed of Sound (Backspacer) Just Breathe (Backspacer) Come Back (Avocado) Unthought Known (Backspacer) Supersonic (Backspacer) Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) Alright (Gigaton) My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) Retrograde (Gigaton) Wasted Reprise (Avocado) River Cross (Gigaton) Inside Job (Avocado) Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) Gone (Avocado) Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) Getaway (Lightning Bolt) Future Days (Lightning Bolt) Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt)
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 8:15 am
AnalLog
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 10:01 am Posts: 1255
The Comprehensive Ranker will have you doing SO many comparisons (~1200) that you will either give up or take an age to complete it. Also, I tried it but found that some of the results were wonky. Better to use the Standard Ranker. Takes less time and gives results (mostly) in line with my expectations.
_________________ Pearl Jam is the only band I'll spend money on.
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 10:55 am
She / Her
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12131 Location: Warwickshire, UK
Release_Me wrote:
The Comprehensive Ranker will have you doing SO many comparisons (~1200) that you will either give up or take an age to complete it. Also, I tried it but found that some of the results were wonky. Better to use the Standard Ranker. Takes less time and gives results (mostly) in line with my expectations.
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 2:01 pm
The Beef
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 10:16 pm Posts: 4450
Ms Harmless wrote:
I'm gonna do this again but can someone tell me the difference between the three rankers, and should I do the first one?
Standard Ranker:
* Get a random unranked song * Get a ranked song from the middle of the ranked list. * Compare the two. * If you chose the unranked song, the next comparison is the song mid way through the top half of your rankings. Otherwise, it's the one mid-way through the bottom half of your rankings. * Repeat until unranked song is ranked.
(This is how the original ranker worked years ago)
Comprehensive:
Compare EVERY SINGLE song against EVERY SINGLE other song. Oodles of time. And based on what Release_Me said, probably bugged.
RuddoRank™: No comparisons, just rank every song 1, 0 or -1
Star Rank: No comparisons, just rank every song 0.5 - 5.0, in 0.5 steps.
Post subject: Re: S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the son
Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 2:31 pm
She / Her
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm Posts: 12131 Location: Warwickshire, UK
this is roughly right:
Seven O'Clock (Gigaton) Buckle Up (Gigaton) Never Destination (Gigaton) Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton) Who Ever Said (Gigaton) Alright (Gigaton) River Cross (Gigaton) Take the Long Way (Gigaton) Comes Then Goes (Gigaton) Quick Escape (Gigaton) Retrograde (Gigaton) Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton)
Unemployable (Avocado) Sirens (Lightning Bolt) Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt) Life Wasted (Avocado) Marker In The Sand (Avocado) Gone (Avocado) Wasted Reprise (Avocado) Severed Hand (Avocado) World Wide Suicide (Avocado) Amongst The Waves (Backspacer) Unthought Known (Backspacer) The Fixer (Backspacer) Speed of Sound (Backspacer) Force of Nature (Backspacer) Army Reserve (Avocado)
Comatose (Avocado) Got Some (Backspacer) Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt) Getaway (Lightning Bolt) Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer) Parachutes (Avocado) The End (Backspacer) Big Wave (Avocado) Come Back (Avocado) Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt) Johnny Guitar (Backspacer) Pendulum (Lightning Bolt) Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt) Inside Job (Avocado) Just Breathe (Backspacer) Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt) My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt) Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt) Infallible (Lightning Bolt) Supersonic (Backspacer) Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
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