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Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:58 am
The Master
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wease wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Batman has murdered people. Also, whether the movie's characterization is consistent with the comics has no bearing on the quality of the movie.
It should. Otherwise, why call him Batman? If you're adapting a property from one medium, shouldn't you try and represent that property as best you can?
My god, these are the (arguably) two best known superheroes in the world, and I can't even take my daughter to see the movie that bears their names.
Because maybe that's not what the filmmaker wanted to do. Is The Shining a shitty movie because it isn't faithful to King's novel?
Furthermore, from what I understand about the comics, there have been countless, disparate characterizations of both Batman and Superman over the years. Who's to say what's "correct?" And why does it matter? These characters, as you indicated, are cultural icons at this point. They've become part of our collective mythology. Which means they are RIPE for recharacterizing.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:32 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 11:12 pm Posts: 3257
But do you guys agree the studio version is disappointing after hearing a live version? This song live is just SO good and the ending is like twice as energetic.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 3:20 pm
Major Dude
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mikejasond wrote:
But do you guys agree the studio version is disappointing after hearing a live version? This song live is just SO good and the ending is like twice as energetic.
Well, it's played a lot faster live, which usually translates into more energetic. But, I don't know if that makes it better. I think I actually prefer the studio version more nowadays, as I usually skip it when it comes up on boots.
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Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 3:23 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 11:12 pm Posts: 3257
wease wrote:
mikejasond wrote:
But do you guys agree the studio version is disappointing after hearing a live version? This song live is just SO good and the ending is like twice as energetic.
Well, it's played a lot faster live, which usually translates into more energetic. But, I don't know if that makes it better. I think I actually prefer the studio version more nowadays, as I usually skip it when it comes up on boots.
Its not just that its faster, its louder and more intense, that ending section becomes something truly special
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:51 pm
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mikejasond wrote:
But do you guys agree the studio version is disappointing after hearing a live version? This song live is just SO good and the ending is like twice as energetic.
I actually much prefer the studio cut to live versions. Ed always messes up the lyrics live and it drives me crazy (I'm not just referring to how he needlessly adds "fuck", he never sings the second verse correctly). And I love that the studio version's outro is powerful and yet very delicate, it's a beautiful dynamic.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Present Tense
Posted: Thu June 29, 2017 10:49 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:21 am Posts: 2870
mikejasond wrote:
But do you guys agree the studio version is disappointing after hearing a live version? This song live is just SO good and the ending is like twice as energetic.
Agreed. Katowice 2000 is my favorite version by far.
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