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 Post subject: Re: What is the worst thing Pearl Jam has ever done?
PostPosted: Wed November 22, 2017 4:41 pm 
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I'm down with this. All the other stuff -- playing it safe as entertainers, running out of juice creatively, etc. -- is disappointing but ultimately not important. But treating your customers poorly sucks

It really comes down to how you most interact with the band. If you don't need to see them live again, don't care about repackagings of old ideas, prefer studio inventiveness to live energy, and don't care at all for merch...then the opposite is true.

The Ebeneezering going on at the club is alternately baffling/amusing (sort of like "borrowing Ed's boots" stories), but it has literally never impacted me. The lack of creative engagement by the band, however, ultimately represents (or produces) the severing of an emotional communication that used to matter to me quite a lot.


Very well said. :thumbsup:


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McParadigm wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
I'm down with this. All the other stuff -- playing it safe as entertainers, running out of juice creatively, etc. -- is disappointing but ultimately not important. But treating your customers poorly sucks

It really comes down to how you most interact with the band. If you don't need to see them live again, don't care about repackagings of old ideas, prefer studio inventiveness to live energy, and don't care at all for merch...then the opposite is true.

The Ebeneezering going on at the club is alternately baffling/amusing (sort of like "borrowing Ed's boots" stories), but it has literally never impacted me. The lack of creative engagement by the band, however, ultimately represents (or produces) the severing of an emotional communication that used to matter to me quite a lot.


Very well said. :thumbsup:


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If you are a grown man who pays for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse

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theplatypus wrote:
If you are a grown man who pays for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse


No.
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If you are a young woman who pays for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse


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If you are an asian who pays for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse


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If you like sports and pay for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse


No.


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With everything this band has said about how fan clubs should be run, it's shameful that they can't do better. Doesn't matter what gender, age or ethnicity you have.


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but what if you are a young asian woman that loves sports and has a rock band membership, what then


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but what if you are a young asian woman that loves sports and has a rock band membership, what then

Then you are a demographic of one.


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And you deserve the abuse.


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thanks for confirming. a couple more questions:

- gay black jewish lesbian transvestite that loves sports and has a rock band membership

- mulatto vegan hare krishna with a foot fetish that hates sports and has a rock band membership

- obese albino pattern-baldness aborigine cis heterosexual male who gambles on sports and has a rock band membership


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No.

But that Asian girl that loves sports and Pearl Jam, can call me.


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Unsure between these two:

Failing to stop ed from smoking

Interacting with attention seeking fans during the show


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I'm trying to decide between the following candidates:

- Not going all the way with the experiment of Binaural.

- Watering down their collective creative juice by not working harder to achieve a new sound as a band, rather than polishing up solo demos with slight adornment. And BOB feeds right into all of that.

- The mastering of S/T.

- Rock Around Barack.

But I probably gotta go with The Fixer video/abomination/my eyes are still bleeding.

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theplatypus wrote:
If you are a grown man who pays for a rock band fan club membership, you deserve the abuse


Fair, but "Ten Club" encompasses all Pearl Jam's business and customer service dealings, not just the fan club.

I've bought maybe 4-5 CD's from them in the past five years -- just infrequently enough for the lesson I learned the last time to fade from memory...


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 Post subject: Re: What is the worst thing Pearl Jam has ever done?
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Come on, that was definitely not "fair"

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The "bootleg CD" from 12/31/92 they released to the 10C for preordering avocado. I was hoping it was a real vault show, soundboard, complete, etc... but it was an incomplete copy of an audience recording they edited to suit their needs (ie sell records). Incredibly disappointing and a precursor to what has followed.


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The "bootleg CD" from 12/31/92 they released to the 10C for preordering avocado. I was hoping it was a real vault show, soundboard, complete, etc... but it was an incomplete copy of an audience recording they edited to suit their needs (ie sell records). Incredibly disappointing and a precursor to what has followed.


Plus the sound quality was awful.


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