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 Post subject: Re: Ed takes a knee
PostPosted: Fri September 29, 2017 12:02 am 
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Of my top 1000 songs, I doubt any of them are political.


I'm calling bullshit on that Burt.


I'd probably say the same as Burt. Political music is a noble concept and often expresses crucial sentiments but more often than not the execution just doesn't deliver.

It depends on how you qualify "political" music, too. A lot of people like to place tight limits on the term, but you'll never sell me that songs like Street Fighting Man, Sympathy for the Devil, Tomorrow Never Knows, Mississippi Goddamn, That's the Way, White Riot, Listening Wind, and on and on aren't explicitly tied to some combination of expressed worldview or values, current event/social change, and/or desire to express dissatisfaction with something beyond the basic personal.

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I am just flabbergasted that someone considers racism a "trendy" topic in the United States of America.



Because it is!!!! It is 2017, get over it!

Haha what the fuck



Hey instead of this vague term of "racism" why don't we talk about black on white rape statistics? Or black on white crime in general as opposed to white on black crime and rape? Someone look it up. Sure there is some racism out there, I guess, but the murder and rape of white women by blacks, thats some concrete heavy duty reality right there, look up the statistics, should all the white players take a fucking knee for that? Take a seat and shut the fuck up. Major cultural problems going on in this country and everyone is afraid to point it out in fear of being called "racist" How about fucking facts, I am not racist but why the fuck are black people so violent? TAKE A FUCKING KNEE?


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LuNY wrote:
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I am just flabbergasted that someone considers racism a "trendy" topic in the United States of America.



Because it is!!!! It is 2017, get over it!

Haha what the fuck



Hey instead of this vague term of "racism" why don't we talk about black on white rape statistics? Or black on white crime in general as opposed to white on black crime and rape? Someone look it up. Sure there is some racism out there, I guess, but the murder and rape of white women by blacks, thats some concrete heavy duty reality right there, look up the statistics, should all the white players take a fucking knee for that? Take a seat and shut the fuck up. Major cultural problems going on in this country and everyone is afraid to point it out in fear of being called "racist" How about fucking facts, I am not racist but why the fuck are black people so violent? TAKE A FUCKING KNEE?


uh, I'm pretty sure you're racist

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knee tunes wrote:
LuNY wrote:
chewm wrote:
LuNY wrote:
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I am just flabbergasted that someone considers racism a "trendy" topic in the United States of America.



Because it is!!!! It is 2017, get over it!

Haha what the fuck



Hey instead of this vague term of "racism" why don't we talk about black on white rape statistics? Or black on white crime in general as opposed to white on black crime and rape? Someone look it up. Sure there is some racism out there, I guess, but the murder and rape of white women by blacks, thats some concrete heavy duty reality right there, look up the statistics, should all the white players take a fucking knee for that? Take a seat and shut the fuck up. Major cultural problems going on in this country and everyone is afraid to point it out in fear of being called "racist" How about fucking facts, I am not racist but why the fuck are black people so violent? TAKE A FUCKING KNEE?


uh, I'm pretty sure you're racist


Why because I'm talking about facts? I'm sure you're a fucking idiot. I am pointing out that if people are going to take a knee about cops shooting black people ( under questionable circumstances pretty much every time) Why not take a knee about black guys raping white women? Why is that not on the forefront of the news? These are issues outside of myself, my best friend growing up was black, he was like a brother to me, a lot of black people I know agree and are embarrassed by ghetto acting people

So many white women are raped by black men, why is this not a story? Yet shit talking police officers who put their lives on the line is on the forefront and spun so hard that it causes marches, riots and protests. The media plays everyone.


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please refrain from calling posters racist. Understanding the existence, nature, and impact of structural racism in American society is not easy, and name calling wont get people there any quicker. It will make people feel defensive and less inclined to engage

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also please dont call people fucking idiots unless you have documentation of their IQ and current sexusl habits

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uh, I'm pretty sure you're racist


Why because I'm talking about facts? I'm sure you're a fucking idiot.


I'm pretty sure knee tunes thinks you're a racist precisely because you're not using facts, but rather just spouting anecdotal ideas about race and crime that sound like they're coming out of an early-20th-century piece of racial propaganda. It took me around 20 seconds of Googling to find statistics having to do with sexual violence and rape, and--guess what--they don't back up the narrative you're spinning:

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Every single one of the individual crimes represented in a graph like that (I wish I had something more recent than 2013, but for a statistical study, getting something 4 years old is pretty good) is fucking abhorrent, and I shudder to even just talk about them as "numbers" and not world-shattering events for each and every victim, but they don't jive with the view of the crimes that you have (keep in mind, too, that something like 70% of victims of sexual assault know their attacker, so any narrative that implies an "us vs. them," or one community seeping into another to defile them also isn't backed up by statistics). There's a vibe in your comments that sounds like the Charleston church shooter, who also was ignorant of facts like these. I'm not saying that you're going to do something like him, but it's not good company to keep.

I haven't seen a single person on this board suggest that violence like what we see in Chicago isn't a problem. I also think most people here believe that each and every perpetrator needs to be held responsible for their actions. That doesn't preclude the idea that the situation has been exacerbated by a history of ghettoization and segregation, or by policing policies that target people of color. It's not all about cops killing young black men, either--it's about racial profiling, mandatory minimums for non-violent crimes, getting pulled over and asked "Boy, where you headin'?" without probable cause, and a litany of other ways in which communities are made to feel like the subject of state surveillance instead of protection (see Ferguson, MO, no matter what you think of Michael Brown's death).

You can hold two thoughts in your head at the same time: (a) people who commit crimes should be punished and (b) we should try to get at the root of why violence persists in certain communities and work together to stamp it out. I don't think this is a particularly liberal/lefty idea, although it'll probably get labeled as one, and I also don't think it's fucking hard.

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please refrain from calling posters racist.


I think I got around this pretty well by saying "this is why knee tunes thinks you're racist."

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having said that, LuNY, I think you may have managed to include just about every 'I'm not a racist, but...' trope in one single tour de force post

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Simple Torture wrote:
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please refrain from calling posters racist.


I think I got around this pretty well by saying "this is why knee tunes thinks you're racist."


thank you for saving me the need to make the post you just did.

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stip wrote:
having said that, LuNY, I think you may have managed to include just about every 'I'm not a racist, but...' trope in one single tour de force post


I'm still pretty amazed on the first page, it only took him one post to make it to "what about black-on-black crime?" That's got to be some kind of record.


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"There's a vibe in your comments that sounds like the Charleston church shooter, who also was ignorant of facts like these. I'm not saying that you're going to do something like him, but it's not good company to keep."

Oh god shut up.


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Between 2001 and 2003, for example, there were an average of 15,400 black-on-white rapes every year during this period, 139,000 robberies, 489,000 assaults, and 12,762 sexual assaults. By contrast, there were only 900 “white”-on-black rapes every year, 7,600 robberies, 101,000 assaults, and 3,217 sexual assaults. Of all 768,879 violent interracial crimes involving blacks and whites, blacks committed 85 percent and 'whites' 15 percent.

Based on those statistics, black-on-white rapes occur at a rate of 42.19 per day. That's an average of 1.75 black-on-white rapes occurring every hour continuously, or about one every 34 minutes.

I don't think it's race, but its the shit culture surrounding minorities and the demands of their rights of passage to be considered a man. Shit is fucked up. Not all but many. Just a fact, there is plenty of white trash out there as well. But when a minority group is causing so much crime you have to step back and wonder what the fuck is going on, without fear of being called a racist. Touchy subject? I don't care.........


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LuNY wrote:
Between 2001 and 2003, for example, there were an average of 15,400 black-on-white rapes every year during this period, 139,000 robberies, 489,000 assaults, and 12,762 sexual assaults. By contrast, there were only 900 “white”-on-black rapes every year, 7,600 robberies, 101,000 assaults, and 3,217 sexual assaults. Of all 768,879 violent interracial crimes involving blacks and whites, blacks committed 85 percent and 'whites' 15 percent.

Based on those statistics, black-on-white rapes occur at a rate of 42.19 per day. That's an average of 1.75 black-on-white rapes occurring every hour continuously, or about one every 34 minutes.

I don't think it's race, but its the shit culture surrounding minorities and the demands of their rights of passage to be considered a man. Shit is fucked up. Not all but many. Just a fact, there is plenty of white trash out there as well. But when a minority group is causing so much crime you have to step back and wonder what the fuck is going on, without fear of being called a racist. Touchy subject? I don't care.........


Thanks for linking to your source! Just in case anyone else was wondering, this analysis was brought to you by American Renaissance, a white separatist organization: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/6 ... -our-women

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Between 2001 and 2003, for example, there were an average of 15,400 black-on-white rapes every year during this period, 139,000 robberies, 489,000 assaults, and 12,762 sexual assaults. By contrast, there were only 900 “white”-on-black rapes every year, 7,600 robberies, 101,000 assaults, and 3,217 sexual assaults. Of all 768,879 violent interracial crimes involving blacks and whites, blacks committed 85 percent and 'whites' 15 percent.

Based on those statistics, black-on-white rapes occur at a rate of 42.19 per day. That's an average of 1.75 black-on-white rapes occurring every hour continuously, or about one every 34 minutes.

I don't think it's race, but its the shit culture surrounding minorities and the demands of their rights of passage to be considered a man. Shit is fucked up. Not all but many. Just a fact, there is plenty of white trash out there as well. But when a minority group is causing so much crime you have to step back and wonder what the fuck is going on, without fear of being called a racist. Touchy subject? I don't care.........


Thanks for linking to your source! Just in case anyone else was wondering, this analysis was brought to you by American Renaissance, a white separatist organization: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/6 ... -our-women


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Actually it was taken from


"DailyKenn.com is a conservative web site with an emphasis on anti-racism. It is an original-content, opinion-based news aggregate with an agenda.

This site tirelessly crusades against racial stereotypes and religiously adheres to the mantra that all should be judged by content of character.

Unlike other sites that focus on anti-racism, DailyKenn.com condemns all forms of racism, including anti-white racism in its portfolio of published articles."

Where should I get my information that shows information like this? The Daily Show?


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Daily Kenn is another white supremacist hate site.

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a quick google search of Daily Kenn resulted in a link to a "n**germania.net"

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