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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
PostPosted: Sun December 10, 2023 3:54 am 
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Bring back Dave A

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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

that’s probably the bridge that made it too far to cross

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

a great deal of time has passed and would be great for them to hash it out

obv continuing to dwell on ‘that-Era’ Ed is not reasonable as that era has long passed

but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

maybe Stone can go in for an initial brunch meeting with an olive branch, bring things back full circle

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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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it still seems so weird Dave is obsessed with that moment of his life

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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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it still seems so weird Dave is obsessed with that moment of his life

you mean when he was a part of the biggest band in the world making a crap ton of money? yeah, super strange to be obsessed about that.


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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point


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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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Stone should not invite Dave A. to any meals that could include eggs. It’s too soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point

Which would produce more revenue over the long haul?

I bet Ed is super pissed they did writing credits like that for those two albums.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point

according to him, he has got nothing. He signed it all away when he was fired.


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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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remember when PJ had the nerve to play Angel live without Dave

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shove it in the butthole

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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point

according to him, he has got nothing. He signed it all away when he was fired.

Well that explains things


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
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I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point

according to him, he has got nothing. He signed it all away when he was fired.

Well that explains things

Prob not the best decision…

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96583UP wrote:
my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?

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but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?


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guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:
my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?

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but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?

to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?


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guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:
my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?

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but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?

Agreed. There are people from my 20s who were really toxic personalities at the time. I'd like to think they've grown and evolved since then, but why would I ever go out of my way to find out?


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Strat wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:
my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?

96583UP wrote:
but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?

to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?


At the cost of his own enjoyment and sense of personal safety? Nah. Even that Instagram post above makes the guy look like a jackass.


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Vs overall is a mixed bag for me, but there’s no denying the drumming is top notch


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 Post subject: Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)
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Don't get me wrong, I love the records he drums on and I think he's an integral part of PJ's history.

But it's in the past. Leave it there.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Agreed. There are people from my 20s who were really toxic personalities at the time. I'd like to think they've grown and evolved since then, but why would I ever go out of my way to find out?


It rarely happens, believe me. If anything, you find them to be worse, especially in the Trumpy climate we're living in now.

And Dave clearly needs his binky. So...


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guitar_davey wrote:
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my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?

96583UP wrote:
but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?

to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?


At the cost of his own enjoyment and sense of personal safety? Nah. Even that Instagram post above makes the guy look like a jackass.


for someone whose m.o. is all about love and putting fixin on it maybe it would evidence emotional maturity to seek to make amends

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