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Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 12:48 pm
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
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I have always loved Mirrorball, though admittedly, once I really got into his catalogue, it fell to maybe just in the top third or so of his records for me. As good as he is with Pearl Jam, his stuff in the 70s and otherwise with Crazy Horse is better.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 1:19 pm
tl;dr
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Birds in Hell wrote:
I'm a fan of both Neil Young and Pearl Jam and I think Mirrorball is largely kind of forgettable.
I kind of agree. It only has a few songs that I really think are great, and Neil and PJ don't have the same "it's enjoyable to just sit and listen to them lumber along" appeal as Neil and the Horse do. I certainly don't dislike it, but it's often mentioned here as being in the absolute uppermost tier of Neil's work, and it's nowhere near that for me. Jack Irons sounds great on it though.
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Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 1:22 pm
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
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I’ve listened to most Of neil’s albums and mirrorball somewhere around top 20. It’s nice to have an album where Pearl Jam actually jams. Big guitars and jack irons has the space to settle in his groove.
At least listen to “im the ocean” or “act of love”
_________________ this song is called cropduster..
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 2:21 pm
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I agree with that. I mean, I wouldn’t put what they did there in the instrumental league of the Not For You outtro or Present Tense, Immortality, etc., but all the jams with Neil on there are quite good.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 2:39 pm
jeeeesus relax already
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The fact that neil and the guys spent so little time and crafted this masterpiece puts it up there with his best work. Its kinda weird to compare it with the rest of his catalogue, specially with Crazy Horse, a bunch of guys he spent three decades working with...
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 3:07 pm
tl;dr
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Don't get me wrong -- I enjoy Mirrorball as I enjoy most of Neil's albums, I just wouldn't put it at the top of some list that someone who generally isn't into Neil Young (and isn't instantly compelled by anything that features members of Pearl Jam) should go check out immediately. It's a middle-tier album in the discography of an artist whose middle and lower tiers are comprised of scattershot, highly taste-specific impulse projects, and sonically it's a pretty middle-of-the-road outing -- if you've heard enough Neil to stake out an opinion on him, this album hardly seems like the thing that's going to flip the switch.
I'm a fan of both Neil Young and Pearl Jam and I think Mirrorball is largely kind of forgettable.
I kind of agree. It only has a few songs that I really think are great, and Neil and PJ don't have the same "it's enjoyable to just sit and listen to them lumber along" appeal as Neil and the Horse do. I certainly don't dislike it, but it's often mentioned here is being in the absolute uppermost tier of Neil's work, and it's nowhere near that for me. Jack Irons sounds great on it though.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 5:37 pm
Production Police
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Hard disagree with all the Mirrorball backlash. WTF guys...
Neil blows through a full set of amazing songs (Downtown is the worst of the bunch, and even that one is fun), while Pearl Jam has never felt more simultaneously so relaxed and ferocious.
I agree with everyone who says Jack is the standout, his energy throughout the record is infectious.
Easily in the top third of Neil's discography for me, and a high water mark for Pearl Jam as well.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 5:44 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Hard disagree with all the Mirrorball backlash. WTF guys...
Neil blows through a full set of amazing songs (Downtown is the worst of the bunch, and even that one is fun), while Pearl Jam has never felt more simultaneously so relaxed and ferocious.
I agree with everyone who says Jack is the standout, his energy throughout the record is infectious.
Easily in the top third of Neil's discography for me, and a high water mark for Pearl Jam as well.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu January 20, 2022 5:55 pm
Production Police
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Strat wrote:
Honestly, im not sure he's made an album as good/solid front to back since?
Maybe Chrome Dreams 2, silver and gold, prairie wind?
Definitely S&G, I'd rank that just a notch or two above Mirrorball, up there with his very best work.
Prairie Wind is 3/4 of a perfect album, but there are a couple clunkers in there.
CD2 has some stellar standouts, and for me is the last time Neil turned in a GREAT album. But there are a handful of songs I'm fine never hearing again.
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