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 Post subject: Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
PostPosted: Tue June 09, 2020 4:17 pm 
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Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Not helpful

I think if you followed my advice, you'd find it would be helpful!

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.

I work on a 16 GB 2019 Pro and I do a lot of editing on Premiere and animating on AfterEffects that go beyond what most people would call "light-to-moderate" and honestly I've had no issues. No issues with heat so far either, but I have no real basis for comparison. This is my first Macbook

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That’s super helpful, thank you Jorge.


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That’s super helpful, thank you Jorge.

:lol:

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.


my buddy just got a pretty stacked 16" MBP and has nothing but issues with it. he's been a 20+ year Apple user, and said this was by far the worst Apple product he's purchased. So average that with Jorge's review and you have a typical internet review here.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.


my buddy just got a pretty stacked 16" MBP and has nothing but issues with it. he's been a 20+ year Apple user, and said this was by far the worst Apple product he's purchased. So average that with Jorge's review and you have a typical internet review here.



Just checked in with him. He seems to have fixed the crashing issues he was having, and all remaining problems revolve around Adobe. Which is shit so it makes sense. He hasn’t had any overheating/fan issues. They fixed the thermals to correct previous throttling problems.

He said for what you are doing, go base model. And maybe up the storage if you want to. No need to max out RAM or get a discrete gpu

Edit: if you are using Premier, maybe spring for discrete gpu if it’s in the budget


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 Post subject: Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
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bodysnatcher wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.


my buddy just got a pretty stacked 16" MBP and has nothing but issues with it. he's been a 20+ year Apple user, and said this was by far the worst Apple product he's purchased. So average that with Jorge's review and you have a typical internet review here.



Just checked in with him. He seems to have fixed the crashing issues he was having, and all remaining problems revolve around Adobe. Which is shit so it makes sense. He hasn’t had any overheating/fan issues. They fixed the thermals to correct previous throttling problems.

He said for what you are doing, go base model. And maybe up the storage if you want to. No need to max out RAM or get a discrete gpu
:hooray: I appreciate your asking him for me!


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Just updated the post with an edit, in case you missed it


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 Post subject: Re: Devices set me free (the gadgets thread)
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Thanks, did not see that. It seems that the standard 16" comes with a discrete GPU:

"This MacBook Pro comes as standard with a powerful AMD Radeon Pro 5300M graphics processor featuring 20 compute units paired with 4GB of fast GDDR6 memory. This discrete GPU will boost performance whether you’re editing video in Final Cut Pro X or playing a graphics-intensive game.

To super-charge your graphics performance, you can upgrade to an AMD Radeon Pro 5500M GPU that features 24 compute units — further accelerating tasks like video editing, 3D workflows and game development.

If your workload regularly involves large, graphics-heavy projects, you’ll enjoy the best performance by upgrading to the AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory.

In addition to AMD Radeon Pro 5000M-series graphics, this MacBook Pro includes integrated Intel UHD Graphics 630, a great energy-saving feature for low-intensity graphics workloads."

Is you friend suggesting I upgrade to a more powerful one?


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Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool


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Thanks snatch for following up with me privately.

Gonna spring for the 16” Pro, with the upgrade to 32gb RAM.


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Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool

Nah that was just a simple setting on my end that I was too dumb to figure out. If I remember correctly, when we first started our texting group, you apple users had to change a setting too. We'll call this one a wash. Nice try though.

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Hey ruddo remember when your non apple phone never works. Cool


I legit thought Ruddo was developing schizophrenia at one point


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Ok RM, please help me pick out a new Macbook...

My 2015 Air is dying. I'm thinking I want a 16" Pro, because the extra screen area will be of benefit to my eyes while editing audio (which I do regularly), but there's also a decent likelihood that I'll be editing more video in the coming years.

Do I need a 32 or 64gb model, or is the standard 16gb 16" Pro good enough for some light-to-moderate Premiere editing?

Are the fan/heat issues with the new 16" Pro models really that bad? Are they considerably less in the 13" Pro models?

Anything else I should be aware of? I'd rather go a bit bigger and beefier than a bit lighter -- my current Premiere sessions are a drag on my CPU, and those are really light sessions. But then I'm not too keen on constant heat and fan noise.

Ugh.

I work on a 16 GB 2019 Pro and I do a lot of editing on Premiere and animating on AfterEffects that go beyond what most people would call "light-to-moderate" and honestly I've had no issues. No issues with heat so far either, but I have no real basis for comparison. This is my first Macbook

Today I had my very first performance issue animating on AE. But I was using a bunch of weird plugins

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