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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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ok so im retarded. and that leaves me this horrible feeling that I can't connect with anyone. it's like being autistic but worse. I'm retard.

I know I don't post much anymore, as life has dealt me a crazy-busy schedule this year, and take this with a grain of salt due to the limits a mostly-anonymous Internet forum places on relationships, but after starting out on bad terms with you (years ago), I really connect with a lot of your musings (the silly and the serious) and enjoy your presence on the board.

I appreciate it. I have enjoyed our recent interactions too. Plus you can grow a great moustache and I respect that.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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i already am crying today. just thinking about some loved ones I lost. kinda chokes me up daily. i remember when I was teenager I had a reputation for being the toughest kid in our grade. turns out being a pussy just came late for me.

It takes a lot of strength to recover from loss with emotional resolve. Let the process run its course. Don't shame your reactions and feelings into hiding and delay your growth.

Yeah I guess I'm grieving and that is probably most of what my current depression is about. But I've been grieving for like 4 months. When will I have gotten it out of my system? Jesus.

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ok so im retarded. and that leaves me this horrible feeling that I can't connect with anyone. it's like being autistic but worse. I'm retard.

I know I don't post much anymore, as life has dealt me a crazy-busy schedule this year, and take this with a grain of salt due to the limits a mostly-anonymous Internet forum places on relationships, but after starting out on bad terms with you (years ago), I really connect with a lot of your musings (the silly and the serious) and enjoy your presence on the board.

I appreciate it. I have enjoyed our recent interactions too. Plus you can grow a great moustache and I respect that.

Yeah buddy.

suck it, shitboys and haters

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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ok so im retarded. and that leaves me this horrible feeling that I can't connect with anyone. it's like being autistic but worse. I'm retard.

I know I don't post much anymore, as life has dealt me a crazy-busy schedule this year, and take this with a grain of salt due to the limits a mostly-anonymous Internet forum places on relationships, but after starting out on bad terms with you (years ago), I really connect with a lot of your musings (the silly and the serious) and enjoy your presence on the board.

I appreciate it. I have enjoyed our recent interactions too. Plus you can grow a great moustache and I respect that.

Yeah buddy.

suck it, shitboys and haters


woo

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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i already am crying today. just thinking about some loved ones I lost. kinda chokes me up daily. i remember when I was teenager I had a reputation for being the toughest kid in our grade. turns out being a pussy just came late for me.

It takes a lot of strength to recover from loss with emotional resolve. Let the process run its course. Don't shame your reactions and feelings into hiding and delay your growth.

Yeah I guess I'm grieving and that is probably most of what my current depression is about. But I've been grieving for like 4 months. When will I have gotten it out of my system? Jesus.

There's no telling really. I'm sure it will vary for each person that you're grieving over. Over time, the waves of sadness will wash over you less and less frequently, and you'll also develop a stronger base to stand up to them. Occasionally they might still knock you over, or at least makenyiunlisenyihr balance a bit. Embrace it tho. would you want to completely "get over" someone you lost anyway? I think it's nice to remember someone for a few moments, even if it makes me sad that I can't be with them again. I still mourn over my grandmother that I lost 12 years ago. Especially now that I have daughters that ask about her and never got to meet her. Death is life's great tragedy, but I do think we would all do well to try and learn what we can from it and how it can make us better people.

I don't know. I'm just free styling here.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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Kaius wrote:
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i already am crying today. just thinking about some loved ones I lost. kinda chokes me up daily. i remember when I was teenager I had a reputation for being the toughest kid in our grade. turns out being a pussy just came late for me.

It takes a lot of strength to recover from loss with emotional resolve. Let the process run its course. Don't shame your reactions and feelings into hiding and delay your growth.

Yeah I guess I'm grieving and that is probably most of what my current depression is about. But I've been grieving for like 4 months. When will I have gotten it out of my system? Jesus.

There's no telling really. I'm sure it will vary for each person that you're grieving over. Over time, the waves of sadness will wash over you less and less frequently, and you'll also develop a stronger base to stand up to them. Occasionally they might still knock you over, or at least makenyiunlisenyihr balance a bit. Embrace it tho. would you want to completely "get over" someone you lost anyway? I think it's nice to remember someone for a few moments, even if it makes me sad that I can't be with them again. I still mourn over my grandmother that I lost 12 years ago. Especially now that I have daughters that ask about her and never got to meet her. Death is life's great tragedy, but I do think we would all do well to try and learn what we can from it and how it can make us better people.

I don't know. I'm just free styling here.


no you are right. to be clear my grieving is over a couple lost relationships mostly. I think your philosophy applies to that equally tho.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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wait, you're not grieving over dead people?


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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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wait, you're not grieving over dead people?

Well I did have a friend die in a car crash too. But maybe you can't use grieving so loosely lol. I dunno. That's just my style. Suck it Spike!

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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yeah getting dumped sucks too

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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Kaius wrote:
yeah getting dumped sucks too

It was 5 years. It's heavy to process. That's 5 years of shit you believed in gone down the drain.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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yeah getting dumped sucks too

It was 5 years. It's heavy to process. That's 5 years of shit you believed in gone down the drain.

The world is very skilled in the art of challenging or beliefs and disrupting comfort zones.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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What scares you? Terrorism? Climate change? Snakes? Germs?

Whether it makes you buy a handgun or hand sanitizer, an electric car or an electric fence, fear drives much of human behavior. And it’s not just fear of physical harm that makes us want to hide under the covers. The twin fears of intimacy and rejection, for example, shape many of our interactions.

Scientists say fear and its companion — the fight, flight or freeze response — can save us when faced with imminent physical harm.

This served us well when we were cave dwellers, under constant threat from marauding wild animals or invading warrior tribes. But it can often get in our way in modern life.

“Change has occurred so rapidly for our species that now we are equipped with brains that are supersensitive to threat but also supercapable of planning, thinking, forecasting and looking ahead,” said Ahmad Hariri, a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Duke University. “So we essentially drive ourselves nuts worrying about things because we have too much time and don’t have many real threats on our survival, so fear gets expressed in these really strange, maladaptive ways.”

Hariri studies the amygdala, an almond-shaped structure that has been called the seat of fear (there’s one in each hemisphere of the brain). But it’s really the seat of anticipation. The amygdala primes you to react — your pulse quickens, your muscles tense and your pupils dilate — even before other parts of your brain can figure out if you need to be scared or not. We are particularly sensitive to anything new, other people’s fearful facial expressions, or anything that resembles something that harmed us in the past.

It’s why you jump when you sense rustling in the bushes before realizing it’s just your neighbor’s cat. That reflex can save your life in certain circumstances such as leaping out of the way of an oncoming car. Trouble starts when you can’t tamp down your amygdala’s response, which makes you obsess and perhaps do counterproductive things when faced with concerning but not life-threatening events like the Equifax hack or a vulnerable social situation like asking someone out on a date.

Consciously activating the more measured, analytical part of your brain is the key to controlling runaway fear and anxiety.

But it’s not so easy in an era when social media and cable news make us aware of every actual or potential disaster occurring anywhere in the world (and in a repeating loop). It’s even more difficult if you have lots of stress or instability at home or work.

To your primitive mind, it’s as if there are lions and tigers lurking around every corner. The result is often a juiced-up amygdala more apt to flip you into fight, flight or freeze mode in response to even the slightest concern, and keep you there, rather than return you to a state of calm in the absence of clear and present danger.

Remaining in this state of wary hypervigilance can contribute to issues like social anxiety, hypochondria, post-traumatic stress disorder, insomnia and all manner of phobias.

Arresting an overactive amygdala requires first realizing and then admitting you’re feeling uneasy and scared.

“Our culture valorizes strength and power and showing fear is considered weakness,” said Leon Hoffman, co-director of the Pacella Research Center at the New York Psychoanalytic Society & Institute in Manhattan. “But you are actually stronger if you can acknowledge fear.”

That’s how it was for Sean Tucker, a pilot who for 40 years has performed heart-stopping aerobatic stunts at air shows despite an almost paralyzing fear of crashing.

“I never told anyone how scared I was when I started flying,” Tucker said. “But what I learned was that fear turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy and if you have the courage to admit it, you’ll be able to focus and prepare and rise above it.”

If you can sense and appreciate your fear — be it of flying, illness or social rejection — as merely your amygdala’s request for more information rather than a signal of impending doom, then you are on your way to calming down and engaging more conscious, logic-dominated parts of your brain. At that point, you can assess the rationality of your fear and take steps to deal with it.

“The more you try to suppress fear, either by ignoring it or doing something else to displace it, the more you will actually experience it,” said Kristy Dalrymple, a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry and human behavior at Alpert Medical School of Brown University.

Dalrymple is a proponent of acceptance and commitment therapy for managing fear, which has recently been gaining clinical validation. It encourages people not only to accept that they are feeling fearful and examine the causes but also to think about their values and how committing to overcoming their fears would be consistent with who they want to be. The approach forces higher-order thinking, which theoretically disables or diminishes the amygdala response.

Classical pianist Emanuel Ax, whose career demands that he perform in front of thousands of people, has long struggled with stage fright. He didn’t go to a psychotherapist, but it seems that the strategies of acceptance and commitment are how he manages his fear.

“I’m still scared, but I’ve learned to accept that I’m going to be nervous,” Ax said. “Aside from being what I love to do, playing the piano is my employment and gives people pleasure. I wouldn’t be doing my job if I gave in.”

Psychologists and neuroscientists are also finding that the amygdala is less apt to freak out if you are reminded that you are loved or could be loved. For example, seeing images of people with frightened expressions is usually a huge trigger for the amygdala, but that response is greatly diminished when subjects are first shown pictures of people being cared for or hugged.

Just as fear can be contagious, so can courage, caring and calm.


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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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Do you want to talk about it?

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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
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Do you want to talk about it?

i don't want to do anything but sleep forever

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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
rough past few days

Do you want to talk about it?

i don't want to do anything but sleep forever

One day, I promise that you will be able to do this. In the meantime, you have the opportunity to do some other things.

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What scares you? Terrorism? Climate change? Snakes? Germs?

Whether it makes you buy a handgun or hand sanitizer, an electric car or an electric fence, fear drives much of human behavior. And it’s not just fear of physical harm that makes us want to hide under the covers. The twin fears of intimacy and rejection, for example, shape many of our interactions.

Scientists say fear and its companion — the fight, flight or freeze response — can save us when faced with imminent physical harm.

This served us well when we were cave dwellers, under constant threat from marauding wild animals or invading warrior tribes. But it can often get in our way in modern life.

“Change has occurred so rapidly for our species that now we are equipped with brains that are supersensitive to threat but also supercapable of planning, thinking, forecasting and looking ahead,” said Ahmad Hariri, a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Duke University. “So we essentially drive ourselves nuts worrying about things because we have too much time and don’t have many real threats on our survival, so fear gets expressed in these really strange, maladaptive ways.”

Hariri studies the amygdala, an almond-shaped structure that has been called the seat of fear (there’s one in each hemisphere of the brain). But it’s really the seat of anticipation. The amygdala primes you to react — your pulse quickens, your muscles tense and your pupils dilate — even before other parts of your brain can figure out if you need to be scared or not. We are particularly sensitive to anything new, other people’s fearful facial expressions, or anything that resembles something that harmed us in the past.

It’s why you jump when you sense rustling in the bushes before realizing it’s just your neighbor’s cat. That reflex can save your life in certain circumstances such as leaping out of the way of an oncoming car. Trouble starts when you can’t tamp down your amygdala’s response, which makes you obsess and perhaps do counterproductive things when faced with concerning but not life-threatening events like the Equifax hack or a vulnerable social situation like asking someone out on a date.

Consciously activating the more measured, analytical part of your brain is the key to controlling runaway fear and anxiety.

But it’s not so easy in an era when social media and cable news make us aware of every actual or potential disaster occurring anywhere in the world (and in a repeating loop). It’s even more difficult if you have lots of stress or instability at home or work.

To your primitive mind, it’s as if there are lions and tigers lurking around every corner. The result is often a juiced-up amygdala more apt to flip you into fight, flight or freeze mode in response to even the slightest concern, and keep you there, rather than return you to a state of calm in the absence of clear and present danger.

Remaining in this state of wary hypervigilance can contribute to issues like social anxiety, hypochondria, post-traumatic stress disorder, insomnia and all manner of phobias.

Arresting an overactive amygdala requires first realizing and then admitting you’re feeling uneasy and scared.

“Our culture valorizes strength and power and showing fear is considered weakness,” said Leon Hoffman, co-director of the Pacella Research Center at the New York Psychoanalytic Society & Institute in Manhattan. “But you are actually stronger if you can acknowledge fear.”

That’s how it was for Sean Tucker, a pilot who for 40 years has performed heart-stopping aerobatic stunts at air shows despite an almost paralyzing fear of crashing.

“I never told anyone how scared I was when I started flying,” Tucker said. “But what I learned was that fear turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy and if you have the courage to admit it, you’ll be able to focus and prepare and rise above it.”

If you can sense and appreciate your fear — be it of flying, illness or social rejection — as merely your amygdala’s request for more information rather than a signal of impending doom, then you are on your way to calming down and engaging more conscious, logic-dominated parts of your brain. At that point, you can assess the rationality of your fear and take steps to deal with it.

“The more you try to suppress fear, either by ignoring it or doing something else to displace it, the more you will actually experience it,” said Kristy Dalrymple, a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry and human behavior at Alpert Medical School of Brown University.

Dalrymple is a proponent of acceptance and commitment therapy for managing fear, which has recently been gaining clinical validation. It encourages people not only to accept that they are feeling fearful and examine the causes but also to think about their values and how committing to overcoming their fears would be consistent with who they want to be. The approach forces higher-order thinking, which theoretically disables or diminishes the amygdala response.

Classical pianist Emanuel Ax, whose career demands that he perform in front of thousands of people, has long struggled with stage fright. He didn’t go to a psychotherapist, but it seems that the strategies of acceptance and commitment are how he manages his fear.

“I’m still scared, but I’ve learned to accept that I’m going to be nervous,” Ax said. “Aside from being what I love to do, playing the piano is my employment and gives people pleasure. I wouldn’t be doing my job if I gave in.”

Psychologists and neuroscientists are also finding that the amygdala is less apt to freak out if you are reminded that you are loved or could be loved. For example, seeing images of people with frightened expressions is usually a huge trigger for the amygdala, but that response is greatly diminished when subjects are first shown pictures of people being cared for or hugged.

Just as fear can be contagious, so can courage, caring and calm.

I think is probably the ultimate perspective on anxiety. I have been preaching it for a while.

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
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hugs. whats happening my cracka?

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 Post subject: Re: The mental health thread: How insane are you?
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Dev wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
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hugs. whats happening my cracka?

i'm miserable and can barely function

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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
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hugs. whats happening my cracka?

i'm miserable and can barely function

is there any reason? or just in a bad place?

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