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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
PostPosted: Thu August 10, 2017 3:45 pm 
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This company and the last one dont even give us veterans day off. That's a legitimate public holiday isn't it?


Yes, but very few places get off for it. I work for a state university and we work that day.

re there classes that day? If not you should get the day off.

Funny enough when I worked at PSU, thsy gave everyone off on Nov 1, for "deer day" . weirdest thing I ever saw. The whole university closed so people could go deer hunting


Yeah, there are classes. Only days off during the semesters (other than the traditional holidays) are for Labor Day and MLK day.

The pay is not good at all, but our benefits are very good. After 5+ years of working here I have 21 vacation days, 12 sick days, and 2 personal days a year. The vacation and sick days roll over. Health insurance is super cheap too.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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You should move to germany, LV. I get 30 vacation days + 7-9 public holidays depending on whether they fall on a saturday/sunday or not. Everyone has healthcare, too. There is also no such thing as "sick days". You just stay home for as long as you need if you're sick. After three days you need a doctors notice. After six consecutive weeks of being sick you'll stop getting your full pay and receive like 70%.

The downside: Taxes Taxes Taxes


Yup. My bros all get at least 40% of their paychecks taken by taxes.

Think my one brother (the archaeologist) gets something like 52% taken out.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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You need "a valid reason" to use vacation time? WTF?

No, just for PTO. Vacation time is ours to do whatever we want with.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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You should move to germany, LV. I get 30 vacation days + 7-9 public holidays depending on whether they fall on a saturday/sunday or not. Everyone has healthcare, too. There is also no such thing as "sick days". You just stay home for as long as you need if you're sick. After three days you need a doctors notice. After six consecutive weeks of being sick you'll stop getting your full pay and receive like 70%.

The downside: Taxes Taxes Taxes


Yup. My bros all get at least 40% of their paychecks taken by taxes.

Think my one brother (the archaeologist) gets something like 52% taken out.


After taxes, healthcare etc. I have 60% left. It's not too bad.


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Mike wrote:
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You should move to germany, LV. I get 30 vacation days + 7-9 public holidays depending on whether they fall on a saturday/sunday or not. Everyone has healthcare, too. There is also no such thing as "sick days". You just stay home for as long as you need if you're sick. After three days you need a doctors notice. After six consecutive weeks of being sick you'll stop getting your full pay and receive like 70%.

The downside: Taxes Taxes Taxes


Yup. My bros all get at least 40% of their paychecks taken by taxes.

Think my one brother (the archaeologist) gets something like 52% taken out.


After taxes, healthcare etc. I have 60% left. It's not too bad.

Congrats


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
The pay is not good at all, but our benefits are very good. After 5+ years of working here I have 21 vacation days, 12 sick days, and 2 personal days a year. The vacation and sick days roll over. Health insurance is super cheap too.


My sister works for the county school system and has similar benefits. She has an health issue that is causing her to miss the first couple weeks but has the time accumulated to take the whole school year if need be.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Must be nice to live in a state that actually values teachers.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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when i worked at the community college you were allowed to accumulate your vacation days.

the lady in charge of the library retired one year early and got paid for it since she had saved up so many days

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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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How many sick days and holiday days do you get? And public holidays.

I get 25 annual leave days / 10 sick days / 12 public holidays (3 fall on weekends)


we get 11 holidays and then depending on years of service you get PTO to be used for whatever

6th year in i get i believe 20 21.5 days PTO (3.33 hours per week of the work year)

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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Must be nice to live in a state that actually values teachers.

My sis is a public school teacher in MA and is basically stuck there for eternity, because a move anywhere else would almost certainly see a drastic cut to her pay and benefits. What other states treat their teachers well? I'd assume that NY and CA do alright; any others you guys know about?


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The double-edge sword of accumulating so many vacation days is the inability to use them all. I've been at 5+ weeks of vacation (plus, all the other paid days off) for a few years now. I've rarely come close to using them all, and carrying over doesn't help. Its nice to have that safety net, just in case, and I'm not complaining here. I wish I could actually cash my unused time off instead. Some friends at other companies used to have that type of perk.


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The double-edge sword of accumulating so many vacation days is the inability to use them all. I've been at 5+ weeks of vacation (plus, all the other paid days off) for a few years now. I've rarely come close to using them all, and carrying over doesn't help. Its nice to have that safety net, just in case, and I'm not complaining here. I wish I could actually cash my unused time off instead. Some friends at other companies used to have that type of perk.


Same here. I took a month off for paternity leave using only sick days and I still have a ton left (like 60 plus). I've gotten better about taking more vacation, but it is still hard to use it all.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Again, I don't think health benefits and a shorter work week are things you should have to earn through debt and wasted time. These are things we look at fundamentally wrong in the US.


while i agree health benefits should be standard (yet you should still have to foot some of the costs) a 40 hour work week isnt fundamentally wrong. it is 1/3 of a day for 5 out of the 7 days of week. hardly a major pain in the side for people you make it out to be

God I hate your generation


so basically you want all the money, all the medical benefits, all the vacation days, the easiest of jobs without putting forth any type of effort that shows you deserve any of that?


gotchya


It's not that they want it, It's that they're entitled to it, like walking into a job making 60 grand right out of college. Totally reasonable.

Brainwashed capitalists like you are the reason this country is like this!

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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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tragabigzanda wrote:
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Must be nice to live in a state that actually values teachers.

My sis is a public school teacher in MA and is basically stuck there for eternity, because a move anywhere else would almost certainly see a drastic cut to her pay and benefits. What other states treat their teachers well? I'd assume that NY and CA do alright; any others you guys know about?


CA isn't as great as you would think. The wife and I are constantly thinking about a moving to SD, but her salary there would actually amount to a pay cut.

She'd make about 60K there, which would basically make her a bag lady with the costs of living in SD.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Also,

1. Healthcare should not be a "benefit" in the first place
2. The tiny amount of vacation we have in the US is detrimental to our sanity as human beings
3. I'm fucking good at my job and have put in tons of work to get the pay I currently have.
4. It's fucked up that we have to bang our heads against a wall for years to earn $60,000 when the top 1% have fucking everything.

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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Also,

1. Healthcare should not be a "benefit" in the first place
2. The tiny amount of vacation we have in the US is detrimental to our sanity as human beings
3. I'm fucking good at my job and have put in tons of work to get the pay I currently have.
4. It's fucked up that we have to bang our heads against a wall for years to earn $60,000 when the top 1% have fucking everything.

Become an appraiser.


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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
malice wrote:
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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Again, I don't think health benefits and a shorter work week are things you should have to earn through debt and wasted time. These are things we look at fundamentally wrong in the US.


while i agree health benefits should be standard (yet you should still have to foot some of the costs) a 40 hour work week isnt fundamentally wrong. it is 1/3 of a day for 5 out of the 7 days of week. hardly a major pain in the side for people you make it out to be

God I hate your generation


so basically you want all the money, all the medical benefits, all the vacation days, the easiest of jobs without putting forth any type of effort that shows you deserve any of that?


gotchya


It's not that they want it, It's that they're entitled to it, like walking into a job making 60 grand right out of college. Totally reasonable.

Brainwashed capitalists like you are the reason this country is like this!


Im no capitalist, but i am a realist. You don't want to know how many articles i read in my last job about how companies were trying to customize their new hire practices in order to cater to millennials. They had to offer working from home, higher starting salary, free lunch, free snacks. All because there's so many of your generation, and these companies were in freak out mode worrying that they'd be left with old folks working at the company, thereby possibly damaging their competitive edge.

this in an already difficult job market, where women like myself are already having to justify every penny we make because companies think women don't need to make as much as men.

I worked the hard way, my entire life. I made 6 bucks an hour cashiering at the age of 20, worked part time and seasonal jobs, took any job that would hire me, and any pay they offered. I finally found a job i was good at at could potentially prosper at and felt invested in, only to be fired for no given reason, and let go after 14 years working my way up at that place.
I don't think a college degree is essential to do well in a job and i never finished school, but i understand a degree comes with the opportunity for better paying jobs, i just dont think you get a free pass for having one, and especially right out of college. There's reasons inexperienced people should work hard to make better pay, because you need to learn a job well to excel at it and help the company move forward.

Gen y has kind of blown that over, as i say, because there's a very large number of you. We dont know yet what effect that will have in coming years

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 Post subject: Re: The calling in sick thread
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Also,

1. Healthcare should not be a "benefit" in the first place
2. The tiny amount of vacation we have in the US is detrimental to our sanity as human beings
3. I'm fucking good at my job and have put in tons of work to get the pay I currently have.
4. It's fucked up that we have to bang our heads against a wall for years to earn $60,000 when the top 1% have fucking everything.

Become an appraiser.

I'll say this: All the people in the real estate game in Big Sky are doing work that looks mind-numbingly boring to me...But they all seem to be raking in the dough.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Also,

1. Healthcare should not be a "benefit" in the first place
2. The tiny amount of vacation we have in the US is detrimental to our sanity as human beings
3. I'm fucking good at my job and have put in tons of work to get the pay I currently have.
4. It's fucked up that we have to bang our heads against a wall for years to earn $60,000 when the top 1% have fucking everything.

Become an appraiser.

I'll say this: All the people in the real estate game in Big Sky are doing work that looks mind-numbingly boring to me...But they all seem to be raking in the dough.

Appraiser or brokers?


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